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roller coaster scene pissed me off.


so when Lisa Loeb (the reporter) & James Marsters (the camera man) are on the roller coaster and they see the car in from of them goes off the track, they have like a cut away scene to Price and his assistant talking about a problem, then the back to the coaster and the track fixes its self so the second car is safe, they cut back to Price and his assistant and it turns out they were talking about something other than the first car going off the track... WTF is going on? what happened? why was there no panic or reference made? that part didnt fit or make sense. other than that, I found the movie to be bearable.

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Did you get that the first train was a fake train? No roller coaster train would ever ride that close behind the other. The first train flying off is apart of the ride and is loaded with fake passengers.

We, the audience, aren't supposed to know that part of the ride is rigged that way along with Lisa and James, until the ride attendant, Shecter, or whatever, mentions that the fake passenger 6 keeps losing his arm...which explains that the fake car flying off the tracks is apart of the ride.

If you notice, Price says to "disengage the flailing limb mechanism and make him into a screamer" and right after he says that line, a fake screamer is being loaded into one of the trains. Hope that helps...

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I always wondered about the feasability of that ride. After you figure out it's fake, after the VERY first ride, it loses the very expensive exitement?

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I thought that about the whole elevator thing, that if Price continued to use it people would just spoil the surprise for everyone else by telling it.
But as for the roller coaster, it'd be a shocker (even if people told about it) the first or second time you rode it...as you could never be sure if the automatic *fix* of the track would work!



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soo how do they get a new cart on there if they keep having it fall off, wouldnt it be destroyed/ and plus wouldnt it take a long time to get a new cart on there

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"soo how do they get a new cart on there if they keep having it fall off, wouldnt it be destroyed/ and plus wouldnt it take a long time to get a new cart on there"

This is an excellent question!

When trying to imagine how this could work, I guess they could have a large hidden area where each dummy car falls (make sense to have like 4-5 different dummy cars) so by the time one has run its course and been thrown off the track, they have time to supplant another dummy car that can be ready and waiting to run, before the ride is over? Does sound complicated.

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It's a cool scene that works fine in the movie, but it's too unrealistic to even bother analyzing as something that would work in an amusement park. I'm not sure how the elevator thing worked within the movie, I don't know if the elevator actually drops and is caught at the bottom by brakes and used screens to simulate the brake cable breaking and a screen to simulate it's dropping faster than it really is, or if it's not dropping at all and just uses screens to look like it's dropping, which I doubt that would trick your brain into thinking you were falling. As for the track breaking and repairing itself, that's just not something they could do in reality, and even if they could, why the spend thousands of dollars a year to build these cars and mannequins that are toast after one use most likely. Wow, I just analyzed the scene even though I just got done saying it's too unrealistic to analyze.

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Tracks can "break" themselves by seperating. Rollercoasters like X2, Tatsu and disney worlds expedtion everrest have duel loading stations or as on Disney's ride at one section the track switches and your sent backwards onto a serprate track.

Of course, you can't load a fake train onto a coaster and send it flying off the tracks just to be destroyed since that would cost a seriously amount of money. plus it's a gag that only works once and the public would know before they ever ride it.

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Since they ended up at the top of the ride, where they get onto the roller coaster, it's pretty obvious the elevator never moved once it finished the initial transit upwards. The elevator used a combination of simulated (filmed) images of the cable breaking and the car falling toward the ground and genuine physical effects to cause the elevator to shake and rattle. The brain is actually easily tricked -- we gauge speed and movement relative to a fixed perspective (a hyper-realistic image of motion on a screen in an otherwise darkened and sealed room can trick your mind into thinking you're the one moving, for instance, because your mind has no other frame of reference to establish whether you or the "external" world is in motion. Or think of it like this: if you're in a vehicle with a perfectly smooth motion, i.e. no acceleration or deceleration, you'd never know you were moving if you couldn't see outside the vehicle. Frame of reference is important.)

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Yup it's the same effect when you're sitting in a stopped train and the train on the next track begins moving...your mind is tricked into thinking YOU are the one who is moving. If you combined that with a rattling, shaking car, visuals of the car falling and sounds like a cable cracking and metal groaning, it would definitely freak people out.

FWIW I very much enjoyed that first scene, it set the stage nicely for the rest of the film when the audience was kept guessing whether things in the asylum were real or just part of Price's game.

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Just my 2 cents, but isn't waiting in line and watching the coaster, going to reveal the spoiler? Not like they going build an eight-story fence around the ride, eh?

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I always wondered about the feasability of that ride. After you figure out it's fake, after the VERY first ride, it loses the very expensive exitement?


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I'm glad someone else brought this up. What the hell happens to the "dummy car" that goes off the tracks? Seriously they just let it go off and crash somewhere? That doesn't make sense. What kind of ride would EVER do that?? It's a loss of very expensive equipment. I know the guy was supposed to be rich but no one is that rich! It was stupid.


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I was really confused but that you for explaining.

Also, did anybody else think that James Marsters' reaction on the ride isn't acting. He genuinely looks like he's having fun.

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Well, for starters, it's a movie. He wanted to scare people in the worst ways he could, if you where on a coaster and saw the one ahead jump off the track, you would *beep* yourself.

If you want to try and justify the BS of the ride.

It's possible that area it flings off of is isolated from view of anyone in the park. The fake coaster lands in a soft spot and is then put back on the tracks. It's a dummy coaster, so it's probably much lighter, and can be dissembled in sections for staff to lift it up and pop it back on the tracks.

Of coarse, there would be multiple dummy trains. Doing the one over and over again would take too long, so more then one would be ready to go at a time.

The thing about people spoiling it for others. Maybe not... people would keep it a secret and tell friends to go on it, then share their experience of it once they have both done it. None of my friends spoiled a lot of the rides details on ones we went on at different times. They just say "you have to go on (such and such)"

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Boy you're really grasping at straws to cover up a huge fck up in the story.

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It's by far a huge *beep* up. It was meant to make you think something was about to happen, and then fool you.

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was this ride the hulk from ilands of adventure?

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Yes it was,awesome ride

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I'd say you're really grasping at straws to point out a meaningless aspect of a movie as a "huge fck up". It has literally nothing to do with the plot. Kind of an odd thing to be focused on in this type of film...

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Confusing the first time you see it. The fake coaster isn't really evident even when the tech guy talks to Price about the bad dummy not performing properly. I get it was a gag for the riders to give them a thrill, but I thought it was a poor homage to original producer/director William Castle who began his movies with some sort of shocker. In the original, the screen goes black and all you hear are screams and see faces of people screaming. I took the coaster as that, specially since his relative is a producer or something in this film. Not worth spending time trying to analyze it.

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I think you missed the point of the roller coaster, which was designed to make it look like there were safety problems/accidents/etc. with it. That whole scene is one of the most fun parts of the movie!

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Hmmm weird, all this discussion if a rollercoaster mechanism is real or not while ghosts are tearing up the place ...
But damn those rollercoaster mechanics are such bull ITS NOT POSSIBLE!!!!
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The roller coaster is a stupid idea really, Word would soon get out about the fake car going off the tracks, soon everyone would know it's not real and the element of suprise would be lost

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