Loved this movie until...


...the one unforgivable flaw this film has is that there's no payoff in the part the viewer expects most.

When Forrester finally shows up at the end to talk...we don't hear him talk. His speech is cut. So he says nothing interesting or relevant to the audience. We've waited for a payoff, and there's nothing there.

I get why they did this -- it's lazy writing. They couldn't think of what to have him say that would be at the level of his genius, of his big return. So they decided to just skip that part.

Which is why the movie was a let down for me...we never see him rise to the occasion. His big moment is glossed over.

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Sounds like you missed the last 10 minutes or so of the movie.



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4) You ever seen Superman $#$# his pants? Case closed.

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Odd. I thought the last 10 minutes of the movie was awesome.

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by Zeppo103 ยป Thu Feb 5 2015 ......the one unforgivable flaw this film ...When Forrester finally shows up at the end to talk...we don't hear him talk. His speech is cut. So he says nothing interesting or relevant to the audience. We've waited for a payoff, and there's nothing there.

I get why they did this -- it's lazy writing. They couldn't think of what to have him say that would be at the level of his genius, of his big return. So they decided to just skip that part.
I think you are more wrong than right. It is true the writing would have had to have been great/genius but that is the reason it had to be done the way it was. It would have had to have been an essay beyond reproach, an essay where there would not have been a 'nanosecond' of wiggle room for criticisim. It wasn't 'lazy writing'. It was the writer's inability to achieve greatness in the mind of every single member of the audience. Anything less and people would be giving the writer a new orafice here on this 'board'. I think it is sufficient that the audience understand that 'a' great essay is being read.

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I too thought that the amount of reading (or non-reading for that matter) was more than adequate but for different reasons than what you stated. I don't think it is important that we, as viewers, understand that something great is being read. All we know is that Jamal wrote the piece, Forrester read it, and, in the end, it appears the Dean submitted it with the other works in the competition and thought it was exceptional. There is no definitive conclusion as to the outcome of the contest. And it doesn't matter.

Earlier in the movie Forrester mocked Crawford for making the students read their submissions saying "Writers write and readers read." He aslo stated that basically writers read their books in coffee shops to get laid. The reason showed up to read Jamal's work is obvious - he wanted to support his friend - help him out. But it's also about this time that we find out later that William is diagnosed with Cancer and realizes that without Jamal in his life, he may never have received the will to experience life again, to take chances himself in his personal life, not as a writer. So by reading in a public forum, Forrester was going outside his comfort zone showing growth in his character, changing who his character will be from that time forward. His words aren't important, that fact that he's putting himself out there again is what is important and what Jamal had been pushing Forrester to do throughout the moive.

I guess as a viewer it didn't matter what was said when he recited Jamal's writing. What was said in response to Crawford are the truly important lines in that portion of the movie. It's already more than 2 hours long - how much more writing could the scene stand?

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The writers of this film obviously weren't up to the task of producing a genius level essay. I agree it was poorly done. Don't script a movie about a genius writer if you can't even imitate it for a page or two,

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