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Why was this cancelled so soon?


I was twelve and every kid I knew watched it. The show was also very much in popular culture.

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there was a comic book called mighty samson that was pretty similar to this...also there is a lot of star wars and conan in the show

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I think there was only like 13 episodes. Wish they would have made a few more seasons.

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Here's the answer from Joe Ruby and Ken Spears.

Thundarr.com: What's the story behind Thundarr's move from ABC to NBC? Why weren't any new episodes
produced after the move?



Ken Spears: First, let me say that when ABC cancelled Thundarr, we had excellent ratings. And when the news hit the
streets, we received hundreds of letters from viewers telling us how much they will miss the show and asking why it was
going off the air. Incredibly, many of the letters were signed by entire school classes!

Literally hundreds of fans, from grade schools, high schools, and even from prestigious universities like Stanford were
writing in! Without a doubt, Thundarr had a huge teenage and adult following.

Unfortunately, NBC only wanted the show for re-run purposes, feeling the show was so strong that the viewers would
watch the originals over and over again.

Joe Ruby: The re-runs had good ratings and we got a development deal to add a couple of kids to the show. But eventually,
I heard it was rejected because of the so-called "violent nature" of the show.


Here's the link to the rest of the interview.

http://www.thundarr.com/media/interview.html


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It's a shame when the executives take the "We don't like it, so we're going to cancel it" approach. It doesn't matter that it's popular with others; that it does the job done by bringing in the ratings. The powers that be personally don't like the show's content and so they cancel it. It's like a boss firing a good employee because they don't like their haircut. It's also a shame that NBC didn't decide to continue the series.

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ABC clearly wilted to the Brent Bozell's of the day...I remember shows like 'Thundarr' and 'Voyagers' getting picked on a lot for being 'too violent' -- this is why you get things like 'humourous' side kicks, 'Scrappy Doo', and shows trying to have a morality lession every episode. Fortunately those 'morality' tips keps shows like GI JOE and Transformers on a bit longer...you'd get 22.5 mins of action and story and a 30 second safety tip.

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Maybe just as well they didn't do episodes with cute kids added to the regular cast.




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https://www.looper.com/198784/the-real-reason-these-popular-80s-cartoons-were-canceled/

Joe Ruby, half the namesake of Ruby-Spears, has his own ideas about why: "It was not canceled from a lack of ratings, I'll tell you that right off the top. It was canceled, I guess, because it was too violent or something like that."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpnBtlnm5eA

That may well have been part of it, but there was an even bigger factor in play: Garry Marshall wanted its slot. Marshall oversaw ABC's three biggest shows, Happy Days, Laverne & Shirley, and Mork & Mindy – what he wanted, the network worked to give him. Marshall wanted animated versions of his shows, to cover every audience. To make room for Fonz and the Happy Days Gang, Thundarr was kicked from the airwaves.

https://www.newsfromme.com/2003/03/05/live-by-the-sword/

Fonz and the Happy Days Gang was gone one year later, and a series of shows based on other Marshall properties took its place. None did as well as Thundarr. Alas, poor barbarian — we hardly knew ye.

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this one site that has it shows a short 2nd season, 8 episodes.
https://watchseriesfree.to/serie/Thundarr_the_Barbarian

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Why was it cancelled so soon? Bottom line is money. The powers that be who were putting up the mu la for this show, thought, we have rather large ratings now, lets stop production on new episodes, and just rerun the episodes already produced.

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It's possible, but I read somewhere that one of the people who worked for the show attributed it to the studios being unhappy with the level of violence.

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You should check out another previous post on this board for the Ruby Spears interview.

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Lets see if I understand this. If the show gets good ratings they stop making episodes. If the show gets bad ratings they stop making episodes. Gee, how do you win?

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Well, in this case, the studio didn't like the content of the series and so they canceled it. Action was popular and exciting, but they didn't want it to be. It makes me wonder why they ever allowed the show in the first place. Did they expect it to fail so that they could make an example of it and use it as an excuse why not to go down that road again? If so, I'd say they were really sore losers over that one.

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The "violent" aspect was probably the main motivation of the networks. There was a lot of noise being generated again about violence in kid's programming. The sad thing is that, in just a few years later, it could have been the syndicated success that He-Man was. Can you imagine 64 episodes of this show? They could have explored the origin of the wizards, the background of the main characters, all sorts of possibilities.

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Yea, but look at the quality of He-Man. Everything in it was designed to cut costs. I'd rather have 20 episodes of Thundarr the way that it was than 50 He-Man quality episodes. The cheap animation and rushed story lines worked for He-Man, but I'd prefer to keep Thundarr's quality as it is.

Another thing is that He-Man was essentially nonviolent, but soccer moms still hounded it as marketing violence to children. He never punched a living thing and most of the action considered of throwing an opponent, tying them up, or disarming them and sending them into retreat. No, I think that the parental intolerance for action in children's programming grew worse as opposed to becoming any more lenient.

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I'd rather have 20 episodes of Thundarr the way that it was than 50 He-Man quality episodes.


Why? He-Man was obviously the better show, even despite (sometimes because of) Filmation's cost-cutting measures.

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It's possible, but I read somewhere that one of the people who worked for the show attributed it to the studios being unhappy with the level of violence.


Pretty much my feeling also.

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he-man was not better. THUNDARR is the best cartoon ever made. it's sad it was cancelled. but i have to just realize how great those 21 episodes are, and rewatch them over and over.

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A: The network needed a reason to cancel it. The whole "it will do well on its own in re-runs" is and obvious smoke screen to cover that they just wanted it ended.
B: The rumblings of the anti-violence factions were gaining strength. Hence why there was the great change in tone of so many cartoons by the 80s. Its simmilar to the lock down on comic books that was going on up till about then, and later the whole blow-up over violent console games. And round and round we go.

Its probably best that the series ended rather than continued to a slow degrading death. This way we have a series that never really saw the usual cutbacks and interference others suffered.

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I recently met Tom Cook, one of the original animators from the show, and according to him the show was cancelled due to an actors strike which began early in the shows second season. Because the voice actors wouldn't cross the picket line, the season was left unfinished and was eventually cancelled. By the time the strike ended, they couldn't get the series back on the air except in reruns.

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I was recently surprised when I read there were only 21 episodes. I remember as a kid watching it for years. Guess I was too young to catch on that they were just rerunning it. LOL.

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