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Pure Trash (HUGE SPOILERS)


I ordered the movie and watched it last night. It was a total mockery of slavery and what the slaves went through. The types of things that happened were true, (like the slave breeding and breeding farms, white massas raping the young slave girls, horrible torturing methods, the ripping off slave genitals) but the way it was presented in the film made it seem like it was a joke, and to be taken lightly. There were many scenes in which the slaves were being sexually exploited, but the "actors" were directed to smile during the exploits. What slave would smile and giggle while being given an enema after enduring a long nasty middle passage? Or get a hard from a white massa examening his genitals like he is an animal? In reality slaves were probablly tired and sick and in some state of mental and physical shock after surving the middle passage and in no way shape or form even remotely entertained by being examined like animals by strange looking people in a whole new world. Lets be for real.

Also, there was a scene in which a 13 yr old child was begging the camera man to have sex with her, BEGGING. Im pretty sure there was alot of interracial sexual exploits back during slave days, but what 13 yr old is going to beg a massa to have sex with her??? More than likely those children were deathly afraid of the massas, especially witnessing acts of violence in which the masses would brutally beat and torture slaves. What 13 yr old would be sexually stimulated by someone who can beat her to her bloody death at any given moment?

Another scene that was pure trash: the slave breeding farm. I have no doubt in my mind that this actually took place, but when the "stud" opened his mouth to express pleasure in getting ready to have sex with the female slave, you could actually hear a horse in the background! It was if the directors were implying that this "stud" was a horse! WTH????

Another tacky scene: little african slave boys naked from head to toe being painted gold and bronze by what appeared to be a homosexual white man. He was using his bare hands to paint and the little boys seemed to like it! They were very feminine in their mannerisms, tilting their heads to the side and smiling, hands on hips. The camera man repeatedly zoomed in on these little boys' genitals. I really dont even understand the purpose of this scene accept to express some type of homosexual fantasy with little boys.

The mammy scene where this huge black lady is walking up the stairs, and each time she takes a step, music is played in the background, like they are making fun of her huge size. Speaking of music, the music through out the entire movie was light-hearted. It was very innapropriate for the subject matter.

I could go on and on about the how trashy this "documentary" was. This movie makes light of the horrors and brutality slaves went through. It was like watching a movie about the Holocaust that Jews went through with Hitler, but with a funny twist.

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Well, I have to disagree with everything you said about this film being "funny." Sorry Hollywood didn't produce this film and sorry for your lack of intelligence of Italian Cinema.

Also, this film did everything to strike me to feel sad, angry, disgusted. Disgusted because of what happened not because of how this project was filmed and edited. I think it was put together in a brilliant and unforgettable manner & style.

Don't like it? Don't watch it.

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I never said the film was funny. I said it was PURE TRASH, and the reason I said it was pure trash was because of the way the slaves were portrayed. I never said Hollywood produced the film, and i really dont care if the Italian Cinema filmed it, the German Cinema filmed it, or the French Cinema filmed it. It was still trash.

And Im glad the film made you feel sad, angry and disgusted, but if you read the other opinions about this movie its not hard to see how lots of people enjoyed certain parts of the movie. Especially the sexually graphic scenes when the slaves were reduced to nothing but their genitalia.

Bottom line, you think the movie was brilliant, I think it was trash. And I will always think that its TRASH.

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Wow, number82, this movie really offended you.

"Well, I have to disagree with everything you said about this film being "funny." Sorry Hollywood didn't produce this film and sorry for your lack of intelligence of Italian Cinema."

See? Not everyone sees it as "funny". I can see how it can inspire a few chuckles though, because A.Z.T. is, more than anything else, an absolutely mocking satire of the U.$.A. as a whole, and that's what makes it so refreshing: it's from a foreign view-point. An especially hilarious segment featured a Black slave so in-bred he was practically white, yet he was still forced to serve his white masters. The obvious metaphor there? We're *ALL* slaves to the powers that be. Only the Italians would've dared make something like this. Keep A.Z.T. in mind the next time you dig up a potentially risque Italian film; they don't play fair or nice. Yep, this is a dangerous film - but the reactions it provokes are up to the viewers.

"Cain and Abel will go to Heaven... if they can make it through Hell!"
-Los Hijos Del Topo

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I don't know about Italians laughing at Americans they do make up quite a bit of trashy, exploitation films. Slavery was a worldwide thing not just a USA can't say it's an entire satire of the US. It also seems to be speaking out no doubt about the higher class versus the lower class.


An especially hilarious segment featured a Black slave so in-bred he was practically white, yet he was still forced to serve his white masters. The obvious metaphor there? We're *ALL* slaves to the powers that be.


Yeah and that could have happened anywhere in and out of the US.


The directors tried to from what I read to do an apologetic but failed miserably at it at which I think some might laugh at the Italians no matter how daring for doing such a movie. This is why it's hard to call this film "brilliant" (that in itself some say would be a joke). I get what they were trying to do but man did they miss the mark.

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"As an apologia, Goodbye Uncle Tom is a spectacular failure. I don't doubt their intentions were good but the film is so basely exploitative and utterly bizarre that it's all but impossible to see an anti-racist message beneath it all... the bad taste in your mouth gets even worse when you see in the credits that the movie was filmed in Haiti with the complete cooperation of Francois "Papa Doc" Duvalier!"


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"I don't know about Italians laughing at Americans they do make up quite a bit of trashy, exploitation films. Slavery was a worldwide thing not just a USA can't say it's an entire satire of the US."

The reason i say the film-makers were mocking the U.$.A. is because they focus only on this country. Yes, slavery is/was a world-wide thing, but the directors chose to focus especially on the U.$.A. and what transpired here... their observations are damn cynical & sarcastic, which i can't help but laugh at.

"It also seems to be speaking out no doubt about the higher class versus the lower class."

Oh, definitely.

"Cain and Abel will go to Heaven... if they can make it through Hell!"
-Los Hijos Del Topo

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To add to this, you know why I think it's a silly movie with maybe an anti racial message? Every time they refer to blacks, they say Negro and not Nero.
Plus knowing how italians must feel about black races, leaves no doubt in my mind that they were making fun of slavery and it was never intended to be an apology.

Of course they say now it is an apology because times have changed, same way why Deodato says that he regrets killing animals in Cannibal. But they say that because times have changed from when the movies were made and people can see through their bs.

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.. the bad taste in your mouth gets even worse when you see in the credits that the movie was filmed in Haiti with the complete cooperation of Francois "Papa Doc" Duvalier!"



Don't forget that the movie was also filmed in Louisiana, Mississippi and Florida ... does that give a bad taste too?

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Number82, I havent seen this movie and do not plan to. For many peeps that will disqualify me from having any say in the matter, but nevertheless, this movie sounds disgusting. If it were a documentary that used actual footage (yes, I realize, NOT POSSIBLE!) than a) we'd probably be even more disgusted but b) since it's not, how can something like this be construed as helpful? Something which seems intent on titilation? If you want to explore the sexual politics of the matter, fine, but this sounds like exploitation and, as you said, probably mockery, to a degree.

And there's a lot of things in life which are gray, some good, some bad, some weird all mixed into one. Raping slaves is not one of these things. I say this because I dont see how something like that could be turned into anything other than a tragedy, which this movie seems to be attempting by having weirdo sexual scenerios which not only don't reflect real life accurately, but say nothing to the deeper sense of it.

In closing, it's strange, as I was reading about this film, I got this sick, sick feeling in the pit of my stomach. Then I remembered the last time I got that feeling: when I watched the worthless "Dancer in the Dark." That too was a politcal statement which failed utterly. A memo to film makers out there, Art is beautiful. If you can only give me disgust, no Beauty, you've failed. And no, Im not asking for a happy ending. Im asking for Beauty in a cause, or Beauty in a person's noble spirit or Beauty in the wholly felt emotions of another human being. Movies like this are a failure.

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What's your take on Picasso's Guernica or Goya's Black Paintings? Are they "failures"?

I'm not saying that this movie is anywhere near those masterpieces of painting, but you seem very limited in your definition of art.

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memo to film makers out there, Art is beautiful. If you can only give me disgust, no Beauty, you've failed. And no, Im not asking for a happy ending. Im asking for Beauty in a cause, or Beauty in a person's noble spirit or Beauty in the wholly felt emotions of another human being. Movies like this are a failure.

This is the most laughably narrow-minded point of view on art I've ever read. Art has to be "beautiful"? What the hell does that mean? Isn't beauty (and art for that matter) pretty damn subjective? I assume by "beautiful" you mean within good taste and aesthetically pleasing to the eye but isn't it possible to find beauty in bleakness? I often find films with a mean-spirited, pessimistic and cynical outlook on things to have a sort of disillusioned optimism to them. For example, BRING ME THE HEAD OF ALFREDO GARCIA is filled with unsympathetic, despicable characters and an extremely nihilistic tone with a predictably hopeless conclusion but it is one of the most tragic, poetic, and powerful films I've ever seen. I think you need to realize that art isn't quite as simple as you like to pigeonhole it as, and you should at the very least, understand that people find art in different, sometimes darker things.

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This movie covered all emotions...horror, pity, humor. Yes, there were certain parts that meant to be funny. You obviously have a very limited sense of humor or are overly omni-emotional (is that a word?) where you can only feel one emotion at a time. I'm assuming every movie about slavery has to be 100 pecent DRAMA...100 percent of the time. Life is filled with different emotions. This film made me feel more compasion about slavery more than Amistad or any of those other mega-drama slave movies. This was no holds barred. It showed things that really happened that those movies would never show because it would "offended" your average audience. Well, I'm glad it went all out. Sure there were exploitational elements, but I have no problem with that.

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This film is a masterpeice, the two directors are very good, although this film is "shocking and sick" etc, it shows us the true evils, of the slave trade and the American peoples treatment of it, it draws comparison to Iraq and what Israel do in Gaza, Prosperi wasn't trying to shock us, but show us how evil we are, his earlier flick Africa Addio, shows how cruel the Colonial powers were in Africa.

This film presents you with facts, it doesn't try to make you think like a racist etc, it shows how the slaves were treated in America, so would say Amistad was sick as well, as both films are very similar, but this one was obvously better directed.

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With all due respect I think you missed the point completely. First of the two first things you cry over are actually part of the films most realistic aspects. "Why?" do you ask? Because they were scared as hell. They had to do whatever they could to gain their masters good will.

And yes the film presents it all in an over the top and exploitative manner. Why? To show the cruelty and absurdity of the situation. To shove it all in your face.

IMO this was an amazing movie.

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Such ignorance is to be expected
Maybe you and the op should make up, and learn what SATIRE really is

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