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scene with Joaquin and Rush


i dont mean to sound ignorant but what was the scene where he makes him strip about? i know it was intense but is it about power? sex? or both. what was the point in that scene, wat was it trying to accmomplish. man, they were both great in it huh? they should have both gotten Oscars for thier roles.

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I think it was power.

The power of de Sade, mostly.

He has that raw, sexual force, that damned temptation. He knows the Abbey wanted Madeleine, he knows the powers of lust, and he knows how tightly the Abbey is constricted to the cloth.

He was being a righteous little tease, forcing the Abbey to at least acknowledge the bitter truth that he does, in fact, carry lust in his eyes, if not his heart. He isn't the infallible, celibate prude he likes to think he is, and de Sade exploited it.

Whatever it is, I can't stand watching that scene, the affect it has on me!

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Well it was mostly about power-but if the Abbe had ripped off his cassock, thrown himself at de Sade and panted 'I want you to *beep* me as hard as you can and not stop until its over' I'm sure he wouldn't have objected.

Who could?

Those are my principals. If you don't like them I have others.~Groucho Marx

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I thought it was because he had just had the sheets removed from the room because he was using them to write on, therefore any other material should be removed also, due to that same risk.
That's how I saw it, anyway. (:

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You saw it correctly. Stripping him completely was also an attempt to break him.

"a malcontent who knows how to spell"

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That scene was incredibly homoerotic. The Abbe may have started out in control of the situation, but the Marquis was so comfortable with his nudity and his sexuality that I think the Abbe had a reaction to de Sade that he didn't expect. I don't think Madeleine was the Abbe's only temptation. The look in his eyes as he tried to avoid looking at de Sade was tortured because he was confronting his own weaknesses.

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The Marquis had the Abbe figured out and, therefore, had power over him. He made the Abbe uncomfortable at every opportunity.

"a malcontent who knows how to spell"

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Thought it was pretty hawt myself.



I drink your milkshake.

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Damn right! ...as hot as a scene like that can be...

French existential absurdist tragi-comedy rocks! G.Rush

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I agree - de sade is totally seeing through the abbe's pent up frustrations with his actions and using them to his advantage... but I think that that scene has to be one of the raunchiest scenes in film history (omitting porn that is):P

you cant take your eyes off of either man..

HAWT

definitely not a film to to be watched with others in the room

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In real life-Marquis ran prostitution rings that consisted of men and women. So it was def about power and sex.

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That was damn hot! The Marquis de Sade is pretty thrilling! In the film, de Sade defys the vulnerability of being stripped of everything he owns (including his clohtes)and instead is a powerful force. It works very well (if you know what I mean)!

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