Insider Info


Hi everyone! I am writing this message to defend Donald Farmer, who has become a good friend of mine recently, and also to give you some insider info about an issue in the film. First off, the reasons the men and Camille keep their clothes on during the rape scenes is due to the fact that my best friend Pugzly's father, whose house they used in the film, is a very conservative republican, and was uncomfortable with the idea of the nudity required for the scenes. That's why they never took their clothes off. Secondly, Donald himself admits that this is a bad film. However, I think now that you know the reason behind the rape scenes, maybe you can look at it differently....

Damian

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You're now making your 'friend' look even worse.

He was too lazy and/or broke to move the location to somewhere his prude dad wasn't.

He clearly wasn't prepared to make this film, so he shouldn't have made it.

-AP3-

Latest FTVs:
- The Lodger (2009) - 6/10
- Let the Right One In - 9.5/10

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Ok, it wasn't Donald's father. It was another friend of mine. He may not have been prepared to make the film. But he already had a distribution deal set with Eden Entertainment. Therefore, he was on a time limit and had to get it done. People like you should really consider all aspects of filmmaking,including the limitations ow budget filmmakers are forced to deal with before making judgment calls.

Damian

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The only people who need to consider low-budget filmmaking are the LOW-BUDGET FILMMAKERS. It is a disgrace to the industry and the art to make a movie you are not completely prepared to make. If you can't do it correctly do it at all, or you'll end up getting the insult to the industry your 'friend' made.

-AP3-

Latest FTVs:
- The Lodger (2009) - 6/10
- Let the Right One In - 9.5/10

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Listen I'm not going to debate with you on this. You're entitled to your opinion, and I'm not about to lower of class of decency in order to argue with a bratty twit, like yourself. Good day.

Damian

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-AP3-

Latest FTVs:
- The Lodger (2009) - 6/10
- Let the Right One In - 9.5/10

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Where in that message was I pleading??? I'm no longer on speaking terms with Donald,but I believe in being a fair and mature person. Yes, it's a terrible movie. Even Donald admits that it is. But there is nothing you can do to prevent being from making bad films, except bitch about it on message boards like the millions of other users because you have nothing else to do with your time. I'm finished discussing this with you.

Damian

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The only comment I have is I find it a little twisted the guy's father was uncomfortable with the idea of nudity in the movie, but he's perfectly comfortable with the rape and abuse of the women?

Nobody can make me feel like *beep*

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Yeah, kinda strange. I have to say, it's pretty hard to believe they had problems finding a place to shoot any scene, even a rape scene. This is a mere matter of having an idea where you plan to do things in the first place, before you get funding.

As far as the "defense" issue above, goes, it does seem as though some people don't get even basic elements of filmmaking, and, if you're going to do a sequel -- and, for god's sake, of a known piece of explotation trash like ISOYG -- you really, really should be better prepared for one of the key scenes of it.

It's like deciding you are going to make a WiP film, and setting it in someone's house because you couldn't find a prison to shoot in. REALLY? REALLY??

LOLZ. It's a degree of ineptitude that should make you not want to have your name appear anywhere on it, and never, ever admit to anyone that you actually worked on it for any reason at all.

I've always pointed out that Plan 9 is not as bad as some other films. Manos, Hand of Fate is my preferred example of the worst movie ever made, and that can be answered on one single score... the cameraman for P9 knew how to focus a camera, for the most part. This can't be said for MHoF. I don't think there's a single solitary STILL in that movie that's even vaguely in focus. There are other things about Manos that make it worse, too, but that alone ranks those two.

Even in BAD film-making, there are degrees of ineptitude that should be sufficient to say, "Leave. Go away. And never, ever, under any circumstances, darken celluloid with your efforts ever, ever again. And yes, I mean that. Never. Ever. In a thousand years, no matter what you think you've learned, by this creation alone, you've demonstrated eternal, unfixable incompetence in this field."

;-)

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First off everyone in film making has a vision of what they want to tell a story in someone's mind coming to life through directing and acting. I respect all film makers and their ideas I have seen a few of Donald Farmers films They are made with a lower budget some people will love it some will hate it it's something that we the audience has to decide but that doesn't make it a bad film first off the film isoyg is not about the nudity or exploitation its about real horrors of rape, its a very real and very ugly act that happens to people everyday. The first time viewing the film I never realized just how much nudity I was viewing cause I couldn't get over how real it was. It made me feel like I watching something that I wish I could prevent or stop.... Giving a type of effect in the movie then when the revenge starts it feels justified what should be done to the men. The film is unique now to Savage Vengeance its someones view of what happened later or its a new film possibly a low budget remake if ilyou wanted to look at it that way. It's all unofficial. It could B just someones love of one film they wanted to make a tribute to it. It doesn't have to be perfect. The real sequal is I spit on your grave Deja Vu which is done filming. Try to look at it as someones vision that's what film is after all

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