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there was one thing that I was confused about when I saw this movie.
It's the scene where fanny finds some pornographic drawings in tom betram's room.
The father then enters and snatches the book from fanny, later burning all the pages.

what was that about? in the movie they never mentioned in more detail what happened.


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yes, they were sketches of what Sir Thomas was doing in Antiqua, but it goes deeper than that...it's the scene that shows why Tom was always so mad at his father. it explains why you get a creepy feeling when Sir Thomas approaches Fanny after he gets home from Antiqua. it explains why Sir Thomas is so ashamed of himself and apologizes to the sick Tom near the end of the movie. and when Sir Thomas finds Fanny looking at the sketcches, he finally realizes the despicable actions he has taken a part of and comes to terms with himself, hence the apology to Tom.

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Was this in the book because I was also really confused, and for me, it seemed to come out of nowhere. And why was nothing said about it afterwards, it was like nothing had happened? Was the son (who drew them) involved as well? Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

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No, it's definitely not in the book, nothing of the kind. There's only one or two very brief mentions of slave trade in the book, but absolutely nowhere is it suggested that Sir Thomas raped slaves. In fact, in the book, Sir Thomas is an incredibly decent and good man, albeit a stern one and used to having his own way, who loves his family and comes to appreciate and love Fanny as an adopted daughter (and there is certainly nothing sexual on his part towards her and he doesn't leer or make advances at her). His raping slaves is something the director made up completely out of thin air, which is probably why it's never pursued further in the film. I think we're supposed to assume that the son was not involved in what his father had done, but that seeing what his father did drove the boy to drink. Which is absolutely ridiculous. In the book Tom Bertram drinks because he's a hedonistic young man who only thinks about having fun and pleasure--he's certainly not the deep tortured soul he's made out to be in the film.

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Thank you so much for clearing that up for me, I love Jane Austen, and that had kind of ruined the movie for me.

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I watched this film before I read the book, and I have to say I thought that part was pretty creepy. o_O Then I read the book, and liked it so much better. XD

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Okay I understand that the director made that up, but do you really think in Austen's time they would have added stuff like that? I'm sure it wasn't unheard of, but why would Jane Austen include such a theme in her book? Like those things were kept secret right? Personally, I think it added a realistic touch to the time of the movie... Gives people a bit of insight into the fact that not everything was all perfect and pretty in those days... There was such a thing as rape and abuse of slaves...
I mean in Austen's time they wouldn't publish a book with that kind of thing right?
The sex scene in this movie was a bit much and maybe unneccessary but I don't think that it was entirly bad that the theme of slavery was introduced...
But that's just my view....


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