thank you?


Does anyone know y she said thank you in the end, when she was burning? I always wondered why, I never really got it. Was it because she was glad that she had doen all that she had, and now was going to heaven or something?

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Yeah, she does say thank you. I think that is one of the things that is meant to be interpreted differently by everyone else. However, I believe that no matter who you ask there are going to be different opinions. They could think it means thank you for releasing her from that living hell, from letting her people believe, for giving them something to fight for, for everything, a general thank you for many things, any number of explanations could be why she said it, not just one. I always thought she was glad to go to Heaven, but there was so much she was leaving behind unfinished that her life was cut so short.

Never judge a book by its movie. -J.W. Eagan

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yeah, it's so sad. I always cry no matter how many times I watch it. Leelee did a really good job in that movie. You know, it seemed that in the actual story no one was coming to rescue her. That really made me depressed when I found that out. She was completely alone. The king abandoned her, and it was like her men didn't care about her anymore. But I'm glad in the movie they showed a rescue attempt...so sad:(

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Me too. I only cry every time during 2 movies, and this is one of them. Doesn't that say something? 2 things, I'm emotional and the other is that this is a great movie. I truly feel horrible, like I abandoned her because there's nothing I can do when she's put to the stake, but then when she says thank you it's like it's all gonna be alright and she made it; she's okay.

Have you ever seen The Four Feathers? Saying that reminded me of that movie, also good movie, but only portions were great. The writing and acting was fabulous, but technically it was okay.

Never judge a book by its movie. -J.W. Eagan

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I wanted to see the four feathers! But I never got around to it. Heath Ledger is in that right? I know how you feel about the abandoning thing. It always gets to me, and I feel so sorry for Jean too, and by the end of the movie, even after the stake scene is over, I can't stop bawling. Especially when he brings the banner back to Domremy and her mother thinks she came home. But I do feel better though when saint catherine appears and Joan says thank you.

that movie must be one of the most emotional movies ive ever watched.

great now I want to watch it again. I've been watching it for...six years maybe? wow.

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I KNOW. Me too. Wow, I was only 7 when it came out.

Yeah, Heath Ledge, uh...Kate Hudson?...

Never judge a book by its movie. -J.W. Eagan

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I think I was like ten...cause I'm going to be sixteen in may. YOU WERE ONLY SEVEN? wow. this is like, seriously my favorite movie of all time though.

i am SO renting the four feathers...Heath Ledger is FINE! I loved him in ten things I hate about you and a knights tale.

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Yeah, I think. So, you're 15 now...saw it when you were...ten...hello!! (talking to self) Wrong movie. I'm replying on another thread too, I was 7 in that one. I was 12 when I saw this one. Oops.

Never judge a book by its movie. -J.W. Eagan

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Lol, so you're...almost eighteen then? eighteen seems so far away to me for some reason. of course that may be because I have to wait three years...or maybe its two years...

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No, I saw it ...over/about/whatever 2 years ago. I'm about 15.

Never judge a book by its movie. -J.W. Eagan

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oh, ok. Because I thought you had said u had seen when were twelve and...whatever. So who was your favorite character? Besides, of course, the main one...;)

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Well, if you're saying besides Joan...

I don't, honestly, know. I'd have to think about that. I might even have to watch it again (heehee) to make sure. What about you?

Never judge a book by its movie. -J.W. Eagan

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you would have to WATCH IT AGAIN? *gasps* I am shocked! lol.

hhmmm...mine (aside from Joan) would have to be Jean de Metz. I know, typical. But he, you know, believed in Joan (sort of) from the beginning and was with her until the end and fell in love with her and he's just so...so....adorable? His hair can be quite fluffy though.

now watch the movie again!



"No, no, listen. Don't listen to me, listen. You will find the others if you are brave." ~The Last Unicorn

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*looking for time* lol. Maybe some time this weekend. I was going to say Jean, but you're right typical. I did like Charles, though his character wasn't quite...hero-y.

Never judge a book by its movie. -J.W. Eagan

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I liked Charles too, even though he like abandoned her. That made me mad. But it was hilarious the way he talks with that royal air and when he said something like: 'its so drafty in here, even with all this body warmth' or something like that, and he had this girl removed from the room because her laugh was annoying him. that was pretty funny.

by the way, does leelee and chad AKA Jean have the same blue-gray color of eyes? (yeah I know that had nothing to do with charles...)



"It's the one advantage to being universally despised: you get to say whatever you want." ~~Joan of Arcadia

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You're right, that has nothing to do with Charles, but I think you're right. Their eyes are, at least, similar.

Never judge a book by its movie. -J.W. Eagan

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hhmmm yes. beautiful. *pauses screen on an upclose on Jean's face and drools*

I love the pause button. And the rewind button.

Now I'm off to write a steamy love-filled story about them even though she was burned at the stake. (damn history books)




"If I could uninvent anything, I would uninvent Hitler's mum, guns and broccoli." ~~Dominic Monaghan

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Her heart might not have. Symbolic...ah, how romantic. You don't get it, do you? I'm rather random at points.

I love the pause button too, don't be hard on yourself. But if you love the rewind button you're SICK. Seek professional help. My brother does the same thing (not for the same reasons, though).

Never judge a book by its movie. -J.W. Eagan

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her heart might not have... burned? but it didnt! unless of course you meant soemthing else completely. u know what i know is the REAL reason why it didnt? well, after she was all burnt to death and everything, Jean drops the cross, rushes up to the platform, kisses her on her burning lips (which has got to hurt btw) then plunges his hand into her burning body and rips out her heart in hopes of ressurecting her later or either he just wanted to keep it a as a memorial. not sure about that part. so thats why her heart never burned. OH! and at the end you know when hes returning the cross to her home and everything, well, the REAL reason hes crying (besides the fact that she died) was because his hands still really hurt from getting burned from the fire. and the audience just assumes something else, but I know the REAL STORY!!! YEAH GO ME!

youre right though, i am sick. I've been sick all week and missed two days of school:D.



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Hope you feel better. ;-D

I think we were talking about the same thing: Some people think her heart never burned when they killed her.

Interesting theory. I still have to call it a theory until I see some ROCK HARD, SCIENTIFIC >>EVIDENCE<<

Never judge a book by its movie. -J.W. Eagan

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Yeah, and the executioner realized they had 'burnt a saint'. ok, so theres no evidence, but you never know! :D

so how was saint patricks day? I forgot to wear green. And i had a shirt picked out too that said I Love Irish Boys. Stupid short term memory loss. see any leprachauns??

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Totally!! How are we to know? Let people leave us to our fantasies. Isn't it called blissful ignorance for a reason? It's not an oxymoron people.

AH! You forgot to wear green! NOOOOOOOO! Ha, awesome shirt. You should have worn it the next day...just to spite all the people that pinched you. I did see some leprechauns. There was a parade (not technically the day of, but that's okay) and some of the people in it did their face, clothes, make-up, hair, etc. and they looked EXACTLY like the drawings of leprechauns in books. Ha ha.

Never judge a book by its movie. -J.W. Eagan

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thanx, i love that shirt! i wore it today. oh, but people couldn't pinch me because i had written on my hand just in time in a green marker I'M WEARING GREEN! so they backed off. omg, they looked exactly like the drawings of leprachauns? cool! of course, i probably would have gotten scared. little men dressed in green kind of scare me. speaking of leprachauns, i saw one in my garden that day;), but he disappeared when i screamed.

and im still scared of my closet.

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LOL! Not seeing pixies too are we? They're nasty little buggers.

You sound like a lot of people here...*grumbling* ruining my fun, cheating, ah. It's not right, not right I tell you!

Never judge a book by its movie. -J.W. Eagan

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lol, I WOULD have worn green but it was the stupid short-term memory's fault!! ah well. Now tomorrows Easter and I think my mom bought me a stuffed bunny!!! Yay my life is complete!!! Yeah, I know its sad that little things like that make me very happy. But I will be really mad if she doesnt get me a hollow choco bunny too. (ok a little selfish, but its tradition!!)

And btw I DID see a pixie actually. Right on my computer screen. Scared the helk out of me and I was traumatized for a week. (ok maybe just a couple of hours.) next it will be the easter bunny, then, err--sqaunto?

AND BIGFOOT EXISTS AND IS LIVING IN TEXAS!!!

and its true because of course EVERYTHING is true on tv! ;)

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NOT IN MY PART OF TEXAS! Up where the wierdos live. Yes that's it. He's residing with them; they accept him

What did you do and wear on Easter? I got a stuffed bunny a couple of years back and I LOVE IT! Actually, it's a her.

Okay, pixies are bad. You need to get rid of that little bugger. They're freaky.

Never judge a book by its movie. -J.W. Eagan

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so Bigfoot is living up where the weirdos are?! That makes sense.

On Easter I had to get up real early at six to help out at my church for the easter breakfast they serve and had to stay there for like four hours. Then I had to go to my aunts and get tortured by my two twin eight-year-old cousins. They don't play checkers right!!! It was frustrating!! No, Kristy, we're going to stack ll of the pieces up, no you're not doing it right!!! What did I wear? Well, I know this is bad, but I didn't really wear anything eastery. I wore a white dressy shirt and dress pants (ok they were jeans I forgot again to wash some). I did get lots of chocolate though!!! And instead of one big hollow bunny i got a million little ones. But no stuffed bunny. I was wrong! *cries*

And btw the pixie is gone I think. But what was kind of freaky was that last night when I was watching BEAUTY AND THE BEAST WHICH IS THE BEST MOVIE I heard like a loud banging/clattering noise. Really freaked me out and I ran around the house locking all the doors.

yep, that was my Easter. How was yours?

OH WAIT!! I forgot to tell you the WORST THING that I could ever see on Easter: it was a ripped off bunny ear lying in my neighbors yard. A REAL ONE!! There was blood and everything. I think it was a sign...

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Hey, you brought up the subject. I just fed the enthusiasm. It could be true though, I mean, where else would he be?

Don't feel bad. I didn't have anything Easter-y and my mom refused to take me shopping; so I worse all black. There was this strapped black top and short, pleated black skirt too. I got a TON of candy stuff, but I can't eat a lot of it and I'm very picky. I don't like just about all of it either. I eat my chocolate bunny and...that's about it. In fact, I have my Christmas candy right here. ;)

Mine was okay. I'd never been to an Easter service before, and it killed my 10-year-old brother to go for 1 1/2 hrs. to listen to this guy preaching. The last time he went to church had to be like 5 years ago, when he was almost 6; so he doesn't remember church.

AAAAHHHH!!!! Bunny ear?!?!?! That is HORRIBLE! That was the worst thing that could have happened. *sighs*......but what about the Easter BEAGLE?

Never judge a book by its movie. -J.W. Eagan

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I ate all of my christmas candy on christmas. I ate most of my easter candy except for this white chocolate cross that kinda tasted nasty. But I LOVED the easter m&ms!! they are so good.

Yeah, the bunny ear was pretty bad. The Easter Beagle?? TELL ME WHAT THAT IS OR I'LL SPORK YA TO DEATH!!! yeah I know that wasn't very threatening but I'm tired and I have to do a paper on Romeo and Juliet. I hate Shakespeare...

I wonder if Joan of Arc had Easter?? And CHOCOLATE BUNNIES!!! that would rock! I bet she had christmas trees too. That would suck though if she got burned on a stake that was made from a tree that was going to be a christmas tree. It would be kind of depressing too!!!

Yeah, I realize that the last bunch of stuff I wrote made no sense.


And Romeo and Juliet kiss too much. They really do. But its sweet.


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Well, my candy lasts longer than that. The Easter Beagle is Snoopy. You know how he's the WWI Flying Ace, Joe Cool, etc. Well, the Easter Beagle is another one. It's like a Peanuts myth thing--i.e. The Great Pumpkin. We're just going to start Romeo and Juliet now. We finished To Kill a Mockingbird.

Of course she had Easter! They've celebrated it forever, not literally, but a long time. No chocolate bunnies, though. Probably real bunnies, freshly caught and everything. :p Actually, Christmas trees are a fairly new tradition here and they probably didn't. It was a German custom. Not French. I think being burned at all would be depressing, but she might not have looked at it that way because for her it was kingdom come and she was going "home" to God.

I know it didn't make sense, but I felt like telling you anyway. :) They do, and they're way too young for all of that.

Never judge a book by its movie. -J.W. Eagan

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One of my friends thought that St. Catherine appeared at that point to provide Joan with physical comfort and to sort of take away or obliterate a good deal of the pain (both physical and mental I would imagine) that she was experiencing at the time. If that was the case, then her "thank you" could have also been but a simple thank you to St. Catherine (and through her to God too) for relieving her of pain, if that makes sense.....

Or even if St. Catherine didn't actually RELIEVE her of her pain, St. Joan might have thanked her just for BEING THERE, you know....sort of like, "Thank you so much St. Catherine for coming and being here with me/Thank you, O Lord God, for sending St. Catherine to be with me during my darkest hour". She would have certainly been *EXTREMELY* happy to know that her "counsel" as she put it had not in fact abandoned her, even though everyone else kept telling her that her voices had deceived, betrayed and deserted her.
There's a similar scene at the very end in THE SONG OF BERNADETTE (which you've also GOT to see, if you liked JOAN OF ARC), in which St. Bernadette fears, in her very last moments, that she will never see The Blessed Virgin Mary again, and at that very moment, Our Lady appears right before her. St. Bernadette is filled with a joy she has never experienced before, and she declares in what appears to be her dying breaths - her face illuminated - "I love you!". An exceedingly emotional, poignant and powerful end to a film - just like the end to the Leelee Sobieski JOAN OF ARC film....Just *THINKING* about it is enough to make me cry like no scene in any other movie can....

Oh, and if you haven't already seen it, you have GOT to see the 1948 film version of JOAN OF ARC, starring Ingrid Bergman, which was recently released in its entirety on DVD. It's a lot more historically accurate than the Leelee Sobieski version, even though I absolutely adore both films and don't like to compare but enjoy both in their own respective rights. Anyhow, there are some exceptionally emotional and poignant scenes in the Ingrid Bergman version too, which I'm sure you'll love..... :)

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St. Catherine told her that while she was being burned, she would feel no pain!





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH1bYK60PmE
Watch it.The Fat Camp Dream.

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(Out of curiosity) How do you know what they said to her?

Never judge a book by its movie. -J.W. Eagan

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She said "thank you" because she'd cried out for God and Jesus and they answered her by sending St. Catherine to reassure her. Joan was thanking them for standing by her, then and every time beforehand.

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In my opinion, I think she said thank you because she was grateful for letting her to play such a role. She was born a peasant girl. She ended up an immortal.

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