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Why didn't Clooney swim out with Wahlberg?


I watched this film tonight for the first time and really enjoyed it but a few things puzzle me about it...
For one, why didn't George Clooney's character swim out of the flooded bridge with Wahlberg?

Also I'm guessing Wahlberg's character died in the sea..?

Overall, I thought it was a very good film!

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I remember when this happened in October 1991. It was all over the news. I was very saddended of it. I was happy to see it in theaters in 2000. But it left me in tears at the end. The movie is based on actual events, but also fiction. No one knows the actual truth of what really happened. Linda may possibly know some of what happened, cause of the communication between her and Billy. The only truth to the incident, is that the Andrea Gail was lost at sea. She was never found. We may never know the whole truth.

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Of course Wahlberg's char. died at sea. They ALL did.

It was stupid that Clooney stayed back in the boat and CHOSE to die. IRL he would've fought to live.

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You're very young, aren't you?

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It was a captain going down with his ship.

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I think that Clooney's character felt responsible for putting his crew in that position and decided that as Captain he should go down with the ship!

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Exactly.

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He's the captain. He goes down with the boat...

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Captains always go down with the ship

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IRL Billy Tyne tried his best to save his life and that of his crew so the movie got that wrong.

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IRL Billy Tyne tried his best to save his life and that of his crew so the movie got that wrong.

But isn't that what the movie showed him trying to do? Looked to me like he was doing his damnedest to save his boat and his crew and himself.

At the end of the film, when he stayed in his wheelhouse, he knew he was going to die no matter what he did. But he was fighting for life right up until that moment.


You might very well think that. I couldn't possibly comment.

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Remember they made up the ending and ALL of it since no one knows what really happened.

The ironic thing is Clooney doesn't even like boating!

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Remember they made up the ending and ALL of it since no one knows what really happened.

Yes, you've said that many times. (And it's not quite accurate. A lot of the information in the movie was correct. Just not the specific events aboard the boat on its last trip.)

But this has got nothing to do with the point anyway. You said that in real life Billy Tyne tried to save his boat and crew, and the film got that bit wrong. But that's what the film shows anyway, so what's your point?

Besides which, if everything on the boat was made up, and nobody really knows what happened, then how do you know that "IRL Billy Tyne tried his best to save his life and that of his crew"?


You might very well think that. I couldn't possibly comment.

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This isn't the 1800s... Captain's do NOT ALWAYS go down with the ship. Ludicrous remark and it's a shame people treat it like it's some sort of written law. Naval Commanders did it during time of war to keep secrets from falling into enemy hands. Fishermen at best hold a limited tonnage Merchant Marine Officer's license... not the same thing at all.

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Nowadays it is acceptable for a Captain to stay behind on the ship in order to supervise the evacuation. Once the evacuation of all hands and passengers has been carried out or are accounted for as "lost" (subjective) then the Captain has discharged his duty with honor and is morally allowed to abandon the sinking ship.

In Billy's case within the story, it is old school. The men trapped below deck could be considered lost but he still feels responsible for the fate of the Andrea Gail.

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In most modern navies, if possible, captains are expected to try and save themselves. A ship can be replaced. A captain, is an officer with decades of experience which is not so easily replaced. They're expected to try and save themselves to fight again another day.

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Unless they're Italian.

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The next time you eat pizza, I hope you choke on it.

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No they don't and I should know sense I'm a sea captain. Well I'm only a 2nd officer as of yet but I'm graduated as one and now I just need more sea time. There's nothing forcing a captain to go down with the ship (at least not anymore). That would be stupid. You are however not supposed to leave the ship before you've made sure everyone else have gotten off. But if everyone except you have evacuated the ship then there's absolutely no reason for you to stay and die for the sake of a hunk of floating metal.

In the movie he would have died either way though so I suppose he just wanted to drown quickly and get it over with.

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Where else was he going to go?






Get me a bromide! And put some gin in it!

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. You are however not supposed to leave the ship before you've made sure everyone else have gotten off.


Unless youre italian.





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If anyone was going to die in that movie, I'd have placed my money on Clooney's character.
He was that brooding character who loved the sea more than any other place in the world. Remember his conversation with Wahlberg? Something about the sea being his home. And he was only happy there.

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~ It was so sad how they all died and that the Andrea Gail ship went down. But that scene didn't surprise me much that George Clooney's character Billy wasn't going to swim out with Bobby. He remained in his ship like that old say a captain always goes down with the ship.


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Not sure why there is an ongoing debate with this! Since the lost communication, no one knows what happened. The only facts are that the Andrea Gail was lost at sea and all crew members lost their lives. How they lost their lives we don't know. The only thing really cliched about this movie is when Billy Tyne chooses to stay with the boat. Other than that, its pretty obvious they all died trying to save their lives. Whether Billy Tyne actually went down with the ship, we don't know. Hell we don't know if Bobby swam to the surface! Many questions to ask about the film but all open to discussion as no one knows the truth.

It seemed right to end it with Billy going down with the ship as that is the old saying. I think it was the right way to end a sad story!

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epic brooding going on. yep.




His name...was Julio Iglesias!

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The Captain always goes down with the ship. This ain't an Italian cruise ship.

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The captain went down with his ship.

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it was all about dying with honor.

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This ship sank in the vicinity of the Titanic so it's at least 2 miles down. How bizarre.

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