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Is Javier an 'Etarra'?

posted 19 years ago by Miguelito_Vieira
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Did anyone fully understand the last dialogue between the taxi driver and his wife?

Right before that, he meets Javier and asks him why did Javier chose him -- but he does not say what that "choice" was about. As they go opposite ways, the driver and his wife talk about a job he did as the courier of a package.

Does that mean that Javier delivered him a package (a bomb!) to be checked in on the plane that crashed, in the beginning of the movie? And therefore Javier is not only a killer, but an ETA terrorist?

That sounded absurd while I was watching the movie, but when we learn how he hid Vega's murder all the way (even from himself?), it does not seem so unlikely. Could it be so?

BTW, awesome movie. I didn't expect such a great blend of genres (the feel of a great crime thriller, carefully weaven psycological suspense, erotic) when I got the video.

All best,
Miguel

[–] pnpmarques 18 years ago

I believe you are being very creative about that.
But I also did not undestand the dialog between Javier and the daxi driver when they met at the airport. What does that mean? the package, the chosen one, get paid...? I really can't fit the idea, maybe I should see it again...
I think the taxi driver was paid in the middle of the movie, the answer must be around the time when he talks to his wife at her place of work and shows her the money.
What would you say about this:
The daxi driver took the "package" to Miranda's house, somehow. The package had poisoned dog food. Javier wanted her dog to die so that she wouldn't go every morning to walk her dog and by that meet other man at the park. That would explain why Javier did not want to talk about the subject in the airport because Miranda was with him.

Anyway, great movie!
Pedro

[–] Mitch-4 18 years ago

I also thought that was being suggested. BUT *** the taxi man and family has been to Paris and returned safely. So they weren't on a plane that blew up! And this scene seems to be in the main-present of the film, while the flashback first airport sequence was 8 months ago. Still, as MV points out, there certainly seems to be something portentous about showing us the airline name and logo, and the package conversation ought to mean something.

The thing that the police detective dropped from his pocket was a vial in which he had placed a hair he found in his own shower. He had intended to take it to the police lab for comparison with evidence from the abandoned car in the garage.

**SPOILER** Some of the user-review entries suggest that we are given clues enough to suggest Javier is the actual killer (of the body found in the trunk). I'm not sure I follow that. What are those clues? If it's mostly the two items discussed above, how would that prove a case? Even if the hair showed that Javier had been in the car, while it might have impressed the police and got him in trouble, we saw him having sex with Miranda in that car. And speaking of that, if he knew he had stashed a body there, why would he bring her to that very same car?

Any ideas or clarifications?

Thanks,

== Mitch

[–] goldengirlfanatic 18 years ago

Maybe I saw the movie very literally, but I thought that Javier was the actual killer. I figured that after the awful shock that Azucena was really Vega getting his revenge, he saw red and killed him, didn't know what to do, and got that taxi driver to dipose of the body (i.e. be a courier of this mysterious "package"), paying him in return, so he could take that last trip to Eurodisney. So I saw it explained very easily that he DIDN'T know the car that they had sex in was the same that held the dead body.

But I could also be wrong. Second guess: it was the heat of passion. Who cares what car it was?

[–] egunsteen 18 years ago

****SPOILER****

He DID kill Azucena/Jacinto. Remember? Azucena was um, giving him oral pleasure and in messing with "her" hair, a wig comes off and it is Jacinto saying to not refuse him or something to that effect. He got freaked out and bashed Azucena/Jacinto on both sides of the head. Remember the medical examiner saying that there was trauma to both sides of the corpse's head?

[–] justjenniferjane 18 years ago

I thought it was pretty obvious that the taxis driver was the one who "delivered" the car that had the body in it.

Or maybe not. who knows.

[–] wildeny 17 years ago

(Spoiler ahead!)

I also don't quite get it in their conversation. Which package did this taxi driver deliver? A corpse in the car as the other suggested in this discussion?

Anyway, I quite enjoyed watching this film and I don't understand why it receives so poor rating. 6.5? I'd say it should be at least 7 overall.

[–] BrettArchibald 17 years ago

I saw the "package" that the taxi driver delivered as being the body in the boot. I thought that was the only, and the obvious, explanation.

[–] beatle1909 16 years ago

I agree with the body/package theory. This movie is a flat-out 10. But the dvd suffers from lack of commentary.

[–] Tristan!-2 15 years ago

HERE BE SPOILERS....

Oh dear. Of course he's not an Etarra.

It's really obvious... first we wonder whether Javier killed the blackmailer Jacinto, then we think it is Javier's colleague in the white suit (who himself had been blackmailed via hidden camera of the colleague and Jacinto having gay sex, which is why Jacinto agreed to distribute the phone conversations that were based on the scripts Javier had himself rejected). The colleague gets run over, we then find out that Javier kills Azucena and, in the final scene, we find out how the taxi driver got the money... he delivered the body to the Dodge. Javier of course knew of the Dodge's existence since he had been shagging the main woman earlier.

So in the end, we realise that Javier killed them both...

[–] filmfancy 13 years ago

SPOILER WARNING--

"So in the end, we realise that Javier killed them both..."

I understand that Javier killed Azucena, but who else did he kill?

"Fasten your seat belts. It's going to be a bumpy night."

[–] filmfancy 13 years ago

SPOILERS AHEAD--

"I saw the 'package' that the taxi driver delivered as being the body in the boot. I thought that was the only, and the obvious, explanation."

When the taxi driver refers to a "package" I think he means an actual package, such as Jacinto's scripts and scrap book, which would provide a link to Javier. The taxi driver takes this package out of the country so that the police won't be able to connect Javier to the murder.

Unfortunately that still leaves questions as to how the body wound up in the car's trunk. Maybe Javier put the body there but has blocked it out; or the taxi driver helped him.

In any case, these loose threads ruined the movie for me.

"Fasten your seat belts. It's going to be a bumpy night."

[–] filmfancy 13 years ago

SPOILERS AHEAD--

"Right before that, he meets Javier and asks him why did Javier chose him -- but he does not say what that 'choice' was about."

I think Javier chose the taxi driver because he knew the man was dying of AIDS and would need money for his family. Also, if the police ever caught on, the man would be dead and couldn't testify.

This would make Javier very cold-blooded (remember the scene where the taxi is stuck in a traffic jam and the taxi driver, along with many others, is crying because of an assassination but Javier remains stone-faced). Miranda has seemingly made the wrong choice in leaving with Javier. Felix appears to be the better man and the one who truly loves her.

Fasten your seat belts. It's going to be a bumpy night."