Couple of questions about Tom Cruise's T.J. Mackey character.

"I once did a character bio on him. Basically his father was a misogynist too and he saw his dad treat his mom horribly, so he mistook treating women badly for showing them affection. Plus there's the poor role model idea. I also had a theory he was angry at his mom for dying when he was young so that may have contributed."

Interesting point, I too kind of thought that either this was passed on from or was learned by him from his father.

"Why would being a misogynist mean you don't want sex with a woman? That makes no sense. You think your sex drive goes away because you hate women??? You think your sexual preference changes??? Plus having sex with women can be revenge on them--you break their hearts. And meaningless sex can be a way to fill a void in your life."

That may indeed be true, but I have known some people who in itself found sex gross and I just really wondered how people can be capable of/bring themselves to have sex with someone who they hate and how, even if their intentions are bad, they would even know to break their hearts amd what kind of void would meaningless sex just like that fill in a person's life if he is not attracted to the person doing it.

"It's more complicated than that. There is no "100% opinion". In life there is no 100% right or 100% wrong in almost any case. Shades of grey in almost everything."

OK, so rules and conventions are more or less what we make, human beings, and nature doesn't really create and dictate rules and laws that prove - "Yeah, there really IS 100% correct opinion, isn't there?"

"Women commit rape and it happens a lot more than people will ever acknowledge. This has nothing to do with the Frank character but I'll bite. Rape is one of the few things that is 100% wrong. If someone commits rape it should ALWAYS be prosecuted. Same with cold blooded murder. There is no excuse for either EVER. I don't see how anyone can argue this."

True, and murder and other crimes, as history has proven throughout both life and fiction. I only wonder why T.J. Mackey character HASN'T said it when he made his speech about defending men and giving examples of women doing the same or other things - i.e. lying, cheating, manipulating men etc. Maybe he didn't want to cause unnecessary controversial debates like that at a public meeting? But then again, he did so in OTHER ways, so?

And yes, I do agree that aforementioned deed and crime is terrible. And apparently females could also be guity of it. I wonder though if T.J. Mackey ever considered it, and what DID he think of that scene from "Thursday" (1998)? On a remotely DIFFERENT level, I find it astonishing the double standards people have displayed on this subject, look at how on Thursday's board men say they would love for a woman to do that to them, and yet if that was the gender opposite standard case, they will go nothing BUT mad. Then again, in the film "Super" (2010), the lead hero has not only forgiven the girl who raped him, but was devastated and heartbroken when she got shot and killed as if he lost a loved one, and took revenge on 10+ heavily armed men for her killing. Yet he had ZERO trouble killing a man who attempted to do the same to his wife without any remorse. Double standards? Strange?

Having spoken about that and also in the film, but this time from a traditional case -

How come the TV presenter was never reported to the police by Claudia for molesting her, and did he really actually do that? Its heavily implied he WAS guilty, but not revealed 100%.

"We are lead to believe that he was at the time. I suspect he was a misogynist as well. He probably was a product of his times (though that does not excuse it). He regretted it though, so he wasn't all horrible (again shades of grey)."

Kind of true. And judging by how he spoke even on his death bed, with swearing and whatnot, he did seem to have been spoiled a lot at the time.

"Women and men should be punished the same. However, revenge should not be considered."

Possibly, but did it ever cross HIS mind like that, what did HE possibly think on the issue?

And with regards to revenge, let's face it, we have seen PLENTY of times in films where MALES get in all violent ways or just via standard killing revenge exacted on them for horrible misdeeds they made, not just killing of someone but acts that are humiliating, including sexual offenses, usually against women, sometimes against men and whoever not, with no problem.

But if the perpetrator in question is a female, with rare and usually not that extreme exceptions, such vengeance was practically never exacted. Sure, there were cases because they happened to be too clever to either track down or manipulate others in believing their own stories. But in many other cases, it is because people in general, men and women, sort of believe that men are stronger than women, even bad ones, and I can understand the difference as such. So maybe revenge should NOT be considered, but it can be and often is.

I only really wondered here what Tom Cruise's character may have thought on that, and would he feel Elizabeth bathory should've died painfully for murdering those virgins like that?

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He IS a misogynist in the same way a "I have black friends" racist is still a racist. It's complicated, but a person who says the things he does is ALWAYS a misogynist. Intent isn't the point. Sexual desires are inconsequential, they are 100% biological. I don't know why you think they have anything to do with being a misogynist. Misogynists often have MORE sex with women and in fact having more sex is a SIGN of being one in most cases."

Yeah, so basically, human beings are not perfect and often have some exceptional qualities that doesn't diminish their bad deeds if they have or do bad deeds. And one may have black friends for other maybe reasons and no one is 100% good or 100% awful like that.

And hate towards people while wrong based on their natural qualities/genders is often complicated when it comes to analyzing the whys of it, as in, people hating people isn't the same as hating food and whatnot just like that.

By the way, in the movie "Ex Drummer" (2007), there are male characters that are mysoginists that still sleep with women and often even hate other men, or who dislike homosexuals but still enjoy homosexual sex. So I suppose its not that simple really and humans are complex as to why and how they have on one hand unacceptable hate and on the other a desire to still get involved with someone intimately.

Human beings are interesting and complex creatures indeed.