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Cheating Men!

posted 18 years ago by Saval
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I really liked the scene in which Gere admitts that he had cheated on the roof top. The way in which he reacted to start out with "ofcourse I didn't, why would you even do that" is so realistic...and when he finally confessed that the only reason for why he did it was because he wanted to and was able to, defined a womanizer at its worst! So in the end I got it...when men that are good looking and true womanizers cheat, it is never about feeling it is only about sex and the comfortability of always having women around that are willing to!! Because of this I will always like the movie, as this scene was very stricting to me! I wonder if anyone else reacted to this scene?

[–] morsk26 18 years ago

Everything about his feelings, behaviours, lies, was sooo realistic..
I could hear my "heartbeat" as I watched him, in all the scenes like that!

[–] chrismcreynolds 18 years ago

I hear ya. It does help to build empathy for the dying woman. I suppose a stunningly beautiful young woman who expects to die soon would perhaps not have the strength to be so choosy that she can reject the only man that seems interested in living the remainder of her life the way she wants\needs to.

PS Anthony Lapaglia (sp?) looks so much younger than he does now on "Without a Trace".

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[–] CinnaBlaze 17 years ago

PS Anthony Lapaglia (sp?) looks so much younger than he does now on "Without a Trace".

I know, he is starting to age now. The movie shows a date of 2000 (I'm not sure if that's the release date which means they would have made it even earlier) which is 7 years (6 when this post was made!) ago and that's a pretty long time. Plus he was 41 when this came out which isn't old but I think around that age people tend to age quicker than when they are in their late 20's/early 30's. I think we all see little changes until we hit 40 - then the changes come quicker! He is aging well though, he is still a handsome man!

[–] Jakezen 12 years ago

your reckoning of his age is wrong; RG was born in 1949 so he was 50 when this was filmed; so much for your theory that looks start to deteriorate quicker after 40. he looks good even now in 2011 at the age of 62.

[–] CinnaBlaze 12 years ago

Jakezen writes:

your reckoning of his age is wrong; RG was born in 1949 so he was 50 when this was filmed; so much for your theory that looks start to deteriorate quicker after 40. he looks good even now in 2011 at the age of 62.

Jakezen, maybe you should have paid more attention when you read my post because you just might have realized that it was about Anthony LaPaglia, not Richard Gere (which it clearly states as I quoted the comment I was replying to at the start of my post as I did in this one)!

With that said, my "reckoning of his age" was correct and my "theory" that the aging process is a bit quicker after 40 stands - it's common fact as well as common sense!

I guess I'll never understand why people sit at their computers and "police" message boards for mistakes and/or disagreements and then reply with a cocky, rude, immature response...especially when they end up making a mistake themselves and then just looking silly! I make mistakes and I don't mind people pointing them out when deserved nor do I mind people disagreeing with me as we all have opinions that differ but do it with some smarts and in a nice, mature way. But hey, to each his/her own! Happy Holidays!

"Are you happy now Clark, she's deaf!" Ellen Griswold, Vacation

[–] timlin-4 12 years ago

Men can't cheat. Women live in error about this so men are forced to lie to them for their own good.

[–] Jane2005 11 years ago

>>Men can't cheat. Women live in error about this so men are forced to lie to them for their own good. <<

If only women live in "error" as you say, then why do some men say with great conviction that women cheat as often as men?

Also, the lying isn't for anyone's good. It only delays the inevitable confrontation which ends the relationship.

-Jane

[–] yejide001 16 years ago

Hello~

Interesting, Saval... I like this film too... most of friends hate it but I find some scenes to be really good.

I think this scene that you are describing/explaining is one of the best scenes in the film.

[–] Bladerunner 14 years ago

I like your interpretation of the scene, and I agree that it is a good scene in the movie. However, I respectfully disagree about cheating men. Men don't cheat simply because they can. Men cheat for many reasons, but primarily it is quite simple - they crave attention and they desire to be desired. All people want to be wanted, and that feeling never gets old. Some men cheat because their marriage is dead and buried. But whatever the reason, there is always a reason and it isn't just because they can.

"...nothing is left of me, each time I see her..." - Catullus

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[–] Bladerunner 13 years ago

You, perhaps without knowing, make my case for me. First you stated that people cheat "just because they can" then you proceed to provide your case which clearly shows this is wrong. You stated that you cheated because you "found a man attractive", so clearly attraction was part of the deal, not just "because you could". I bet if we dig deeper we would find that you wanted to have sex with this man, so we could chalk lust up as another motivator.

I would also assert that, if you were in therapy or analysis other reasons might also crop up, of which you may now be unaware, or purposefully ignorant because it's easier for people to excuse their behavior sometimes if they don't go looking for the underlying motivations. Of course I don't know you, but my wife is a therapist specializing in sexual abuse and sexual addictions (among other areas) and of all the patients she's had, none ever ended up doing these things just because "they could".

Human behavior is complex (albeit understandable) and doing something just because "one can" simply doesn't enter into the motivations behind actions, unless someone is psychotic or a sociopath, and even then we find mitigating factors in one's youth that reveal complex foundational elements responsible for such pathology.

"...nothing is left of me, each time I see her..." - Catullus

[–] johnf_sf 13 years ago

you are giving her too much credit.

I quote "I am officially a Trekkie, Dwarfer, Whovian, Gleek and Browncoat"

therefore I ascertain she is a fugly gruesome beast of a "woman" who cheats when heavenly possible. Paper bags are getting expensive these days.

[–] Jane2005 12 years ago

i have cheated in the past and not for any reason other than i could. I am a woman and if i found a man attractive and he felt the same, then I would cheat. My relationship at the time was good, sex life was good and yet i still cheated!

POM,
Thanks for your honesty in this post. Did you ever stop to think about why you felt you needed to cheat? Was it for the excitement?

I am in a good relationship and have no desire to cheat. Sure I see good looking guys and could probably cheat if I wanted. I can't imagine, though, that any "one night stand sex" would be worth it.

I know I'd wake up feeling sick that I had betrayed a really good guy, AND sold myself short with someone I didn't want in my life more than 30 minutes. I'd rather have routine sex with someone who makes me laugh on my bad days, than 15-30 minutes of "new sex", no matter how great. So not worth it.

-Jane

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[–] Cobra1986 13 years ago

I didn't react that way, because I already knew why he cheated. And low and behold he actually told the truth. Which is very uncommon for cheaters be it male or female.

[–] albasrawi 7 years ago

I agree, the most powerful scene of the film for me, and even though richard gere is a sub par actor, he actually made that scene.

[–] curious (1) 2 years ago

I just watched this movie. I found mostly it ok not a great movie.

But for the human spirit issue yeah mostly men cheat. I agree. My ex wife divorced me recently, the kids don't talk to me. I was not the greatest husband and father and yes I made mistakes but after years in therapy I have finally understood what the therapist has been saying all the time -- even asking my ex wife in a session when I tried to save the marriage "are you having an affair?" She never admitted it to this day and my kids still think their mother divorced me because I am a monster. Therapists more then one and friends say they will figure it out one day and come back to me. Therapists say I am good catch but I am old and ugly now.
Sadly I can go months without a single hello from them and even after years of attempts to contact them. And now my children are learning the same traits as their mother. They do not even see what she is doing wrong in not helping our parenting situation and she puts me down still. Cheating I think is 50/50 men and women now. Probably statistically years ago and historically it was men I am sure.

I feel this movie shows a very dark side of men and I for one apologize to all women for this trait we have. I think the story showing this trait is sad and all men need to understand the science behind what we do. it was a bit revolting since she is dying. For me.