DId not buy Jason as gay


All the time during this movie he had a ring in his "straight" ear, I kept noticing that. Plus he did not really act well he just turned up his voice instead of showing real emotion, but everybody knows he is straight and we should repect him for trying a gay role, it is just a shame that he did not have a more challenging director. He can definitely act is anyone saw shipping news, he just did not show off his skill in rites.

The movie was kind of creepy in that there were 3 gay charaters and 2 died, one ended up in prison, just like things were dont in the old 1960's movies where this was the only way gay charaters could appear on the screen. I wonder if this was a screen play from the 1906's just redone.

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what exactly was this movie about???A father who didn't like his son because he was gay?Sounds like my life lol.and yeah I am gay too.

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This was a creepy crime drama where an emotionally starved gay man (Jason Behr) was used by a convict to break out of jail and uncover some money. His father regects him because he's gay but in the end they fight the bad guys together and that rebuilds the relationship. It was all shot at night and in one building. I didn't think Jason played a emotionally desperate gay man very well he was too stiff, plus he wore his "I'm a straight guy left earing" for the entire movie. I think he was young and worried people would think he was gay in real life and of course nobody did because he's one of those guys who could show up wrapped in a rainbow flag and everyone would still think he was straight. I think Jason was a bit too green to pull it off. I saw him in shipping news and he's a better actor now.
There was an underlying theme to the movie about the director's past and how he's cured now and that didn't work at all. I'm glad I heard about that after I saw the movie. Just watch it as a crime drama. The scene when they invite the con's into the cottage for some food and that turns into an ego/arm wrestling fight was quite intense. Only the audience knows these guys are recent murders and prison escapees.

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"This was a creepy crime drama"

You got that right.

"I didn't think Jason played a emotionally desperate gay man very well he was too stiff, plus he wore his "I'm a straight guy left earing" for the entire movie."

I think he's too horrible of an actor to even play a straight man.

"The scene when they invite the con's into the cottage for some food and that turns into an ego/arm wrestling fight was quite intense."

Dear God, you're kidding right?

I couldn't sleep the other night and this movie was the late Sunday night crap film on channel two so I figured what the hell. Ok, problems from the very beginning. Stockwell (who I actually liked in Quantum Leap) butchered and overdramatized the whole overbearing macho father thing. I was really surprised because I thought he was a decent actor. The two cons were incredibly weird. That whole bunch of B.S. about the "Wanape" Indians (who I'm not even sure exist) was an insult to Native Americans everywhere... Like the Native Americans really had arm wrestling matches with scorpians to kill the loser. Oh not to mention the whole thing about fathers and sons having incestuous gay sex. Sure, and of course they did all this while war whooping and saying "How, me Indian and you white man smokem peace pipe." Not to mention how creepy and kid toucherish the actor's delivery came off.

Let's see what else, oh yes, this movie makes absolutely no sense whatsoever! When the father caught the kid leaving in the middle of the night why didn't the two cons make it easy on themselves and make up some story saying that they were going off to have an orgy in the woods or something? The father was enough of a raging *beep* disgusted by his son to believe it. Then, can anyone explain how Frank can take shotgun blasts to the chest like a champ? First of all it didn't appear that he was wearing a vest, second of all where would he have gotten one (don't say the campers because who the hell brings a bullet proof vest camping), and third shotguns shoot SHOT not BULLETS! If he was fired on from that distance he most certainly would have caught some pellets in the face or arms/legs.

Also, it seemed that the kid hit him again from less than point blank range in the boat, but again he emerged unscathed. The whole boat thing was really really stupid...Just kill the guy and explain what happened to the cops! "Oh wait, he can't swim so I'll leave him clinging to the boat!" But seriously-If you're friends with the cops in the first place you could either A: Just deny everything and tell them that these two scumbags tried to rob the place, or B: Just kill the two scumbags and tell the cops that they were trying to rob the place and you shot them. There was no reason for that kid to go to prison other than to have the really sappy reunion with the father. It probably could have been a good movie with a little rewrite of the script and less of a a desire to make it an "edgy gay love triangle for the modern moviegoing experience" type theme.




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That whole bunch of B.S. about the "Wanape" Indians (who I'm not even sure exist) was an insult to Native Americans everywhere... Like the Native Americans really had arm wrestling matches with scorpions to kill the loser. Oh not to mention the whole thing about fathers and sons having incestuous gay sex.

I wondered about that myself. According to the director commentary, the Wanape tribe is fictional because he wanted to avoid pressure from existing groups and also he was able to give them the attributes that he wanted. The customs mentioned apparently did exist although they were practiced by a variety of different tribes at one time or another.


Such drama! Are you sure you're not Greek? - Queen Diana (Roar)

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That whole bunch of B.S. about the "Wanape" Indians (who I'm not even sure exist) was an insult to Native Americans everywhere... Like the Native Americans really had arm wrestling matches with scorpians to kill the loser.

You haven't yet learnt that when a character says something, it's not the writer or director saying it as if it's true? Really??

The rest of your post is just you being squirmy about gays. That's all your own stuff.



You might very well think that. I couldn't possibly comment.

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You seem a bit caught up in on the earring thing. While many have tried to impose such a rule it really hasn’t caught on. What earring someone wears an earring in is regional. Frankly either ear is gay fashion and if straight boys want to copy gay boys they can. But it would be silly to assume someone’s sexual orientation based on a earring. By your logic I’m bi when I wear them in both.

The movie has a feel as if it started as a stage play (which I doubt it did). Jason Behr does acting is, well to be nice, very laid back. It works really well in a show like Roswell where he is supposed to be alienated. It works far less well here.

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I like the film, I tought Jason did a good job

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"Straight ear!?" Have you been sleeping for the last 35 years or what!? That thing about an earring in the left ear = straight/right ear = queer went out in the mid '70's. Even before that, it was unreliable. I knew gay dudes with a left ear pierced and straight toughs who pierced the right just hoping someone would pick a fight with them over it.

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