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Do they seed the junkyards?


Do the producers place items that would be required in the junkyard ahead of time?

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I have suspicions they drop a few items about, e.g propellors when aircraft are involved, elastic bungee when flinging is required, stuff like that. I kinda noticed how out of place some objects seem, on the clockwork cars episode a guy returns from the heap with a nicely folded bag of rubber cord, and in a boating episode there seemed to be an abundance of propellors.


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Exactly the type of things that I noticed as well. I'm not knocking the show or anything...I totally dig it, but it wouldn't surprise me if they place things hidden in the rest of the junk. Surely there wouldn't be some of the items they supposedly stumble upon.

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I saw an episode the other day where the teams had to make regular full-size cars work via remote control. There were two cars in the junkyard that had keys in them and started right up. I can't imagine a car with a working engine being junked like that -- the producers almost certainly placed them there.

In fairness, they would probably have to. In this particular challenge the teams barely had enough time to get the remote control working, and would have had no time to try to get a car with an old rusted engine running.

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Absolutely. In fact, I'm sure they consult with the team experts to find out what they plan to build, and what sort of "junk" they'll need to do the job.

There's other stuff that happens off screen, like _somebody_ fabricates those roll cages that magically appear on race day. And I suspect that some painting happens before the "one hour tinkering time". Paint needs time to dry.

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As for the vehicles that start with a key... some cars get junked for failing an MOT test or after collisions when repairs would cost more than the car is worth.

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The roll cages are not secretly added, they mentioned quite a few times on the show they have to add them for safety.

They have to seed the scrapheap or else quite a few of the challenges may turn out to be impossible. But I imagine some of the vehicles that were constructed managed to not use some of the planted parts.

If you absolutely need a certain piece of equipment and the junkyard doesn't have it, show fails and no one is happy!

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Either one of the finales or championship showdowns featured a little behind the scenes look and showed equipment being brought to the junkyard. I'm sure some of it is restock after a previous challenge, but the rest is based around the specific challenge ahead. Obviously, their experts devise two seperate approaches to the challenge in advance; otherwise, we would probably see more duplication of devices. They have to plant the things like canvas and plastic sheeting, given the quantities I have seen discovered on shows. Granted, they don't just leave it in the wide open spaces.

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Obviously, their experts devise two seperate approaches to the challenge in advance; otherwise, we would probably see more duplication of devices

That makes sense. Quite often, despite various plans of the team members, the assigned experts propose an idea that often the team are dubious about or sometimes even opposed to, but they always go with the experts plan.
It seems that the experts get together beforehand with the producers to discuss the challenge. Though it doesn't look like the team know anything in advance.

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The one exception was the episode when they had to build a machine to throw the washing machine. The expert wanted to build some kind of giant crossbow and the team over ruled him and built a trebuchet (and WON!).

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First, it is not a real junkyard. So the producers go about real junkyards looking for stuff that could come in hand.

I imagine for specific challenges they look for certain items.

In the rocket episode they said they planted the rocket motors.

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I think that's really the only way the show would work. It has to be salted in some way. I've been to a lot of junkyards and have never seen aircraft propellers, rocket motors, or an abundance of bungee cords.

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Th is old news; but, for history's sake, for any future readers, the junkyard is seeded with specific things, like working engines, pumps, hydraulic rams, and very specific components for particular challenges. The challenges were designed with 4 particular otions and are given to the team experts. They each pick one of two options and the teams then go with that. There have been instances where the production crew have actually gone out and bought a component and brought it back, to be placed in the junkyard. When the teams are struggling, they are "encouraged" to give it one more look. Also, the time allotted is flexible and they have gone later, to finish up a machine and make it safe. There have also been significant modifications made before the competitions, well in excess of one hour. There have even been manipulations of the competition to favor a team. One of the American competitions had a team that was ignoring the time constraints and took their time putting a dragster together. They didn't finish and the production crew experts and technicians actually completed the job and modified it. It came close to causing legal actions.
The thing is, the mandate of the show is to be educational, not an actual competition. The competition component is there to present scientific and engineering principles in an entertaining way. There is no prize money or anything beyond the trophy. As such, the production team has often structured things to present "better tv." For instance, the rocket expert on the first series, called Buzz, never had that nickname, in his life. Some team members, like Dick Strawbridge and Bowser Munson were brought back because they were popular and footage was designed to showcase them. I have wondered if the Barley Picker's trebuchet wasn't specifically designed to fail, so they could illustrate the pitfalls of structural engineering. Even the team doubted the strength of their materials and the graphics kept emphasizing the structure collapsing under its own weight, which is actually what happened.

You can read a very illuminating behind-the-scenes interview here:

http://www.qwizx.com/jyw/interviews/neal.html

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