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This movie.....what was the point??


I normally love movies like these, as "The Trip to Bountiful" (also penned by Horton Foote) is one of my very favorite movies.
But this one...it dragged and dragged and dragged. Plot lines started and went nowhere, people just sat and grinned at each other and started talking, then stopped..and started and stopped.
Most of the acting was quite good, but there was ultimately no point to this film as I could see.



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i totally agree

i woke up on my first day of summer and this was just coming on. it looked great and i was in the mood for a good texas drama like "stars fell on henrietta" or "places in the heart" so i put on coffee and tried to get into it.

but i agree with you, it's largely a let down

your description is great. plots started and go nowhere. no point.


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also some of the southern accents were way off


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and somebody needs to slap frederick forrest. he acts like an idiot savant or something, very strange. was he on crack during the filming? his hee haw knee slapping YELLING EVERY LINE got old after a while. lmao

(sorry, but i am still watching)


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this is very interesting. i am a writer and i am trying to figure out what was the problem that made this movie boring. you're right, it drags. well, your whole summary actually is right on the money.

i think i did an article on a conversation in dexter one time, about the same issue. i will go try to find that.

but yeah, it's just bla bla bla dragging on with no point.

did somebody actually make money off this film? hard to believe


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thing is, there's nothing "happening" in this story. no rise and fall, no problems to be solved, no conflicts, no tensions (but i said it better in the dexter essay. i will try to find that)

OMG i gotta say it again, frederick forrest was TOO affected in this, so much that i wonder if he's trying to channel a circus monkey with his walking style. did he have back problems in 1997 or something? maybe that's it. he walks leaning way over grabbing his crotch, clapping his hands together constantly, hobbling left to right in them boots he CLEARLY ain't used to wearing. maybe it's the boots and his underwear is too tight, making him do those antics. lol

hume cronyn is the only reason i tuned in to this, and i love him but he's not enough to pull it off

and chris cooper, WTF .....he's normally in much better projects than this. and james earl jones is a damn oscar winner, i know he can do way better.

this whole thing is whack, but i WANTED to like it so much, i promise i really did

btw i am tempted to make a youtube of forrest's clips just to show people how silly he looks


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but soon as i start bashing this movie, it has moments of endearment, like cronyn on the front porch in a rocker talking about his wife. and the opening scenes were similar.

another observation: i don't think it was filmed in texas. the light looks different in texas (i used to live there) and the trees and foliage look like california. (been there too)

like the OP said, this film is full of mini startups that go nowhere.



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i want to know why this was made, what was behind it, what inspired it. was it a book? who wrote this, and why? i'm becoming more fascinated by it the further i watch.

i am gonna try to find more about it, though i doubt i can. it may take some digging

another observation is, the title portends a drama about a very old man (cronyn) and his plight of battling loneliness, yet honestly i have not seen ONE SINGLE MOMENT of angst in the whole film, to this point. (i am 90 minutes in now)



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speaking of the setup, or premise, or whatever you wanna call it, this movie seemed like it was gonna be kindof like a mcmurtry (terms of endearment, evening star) or tennessee williams or something (greedy kids rally around newly rich
elderly relative) yet it's nothing like any of that.

just flat and boring, with alot of conversations about nothing that lead me to say 'why am i listening to these people talk?'



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well the pedigree of the writer and director are both stellar. can't find anything specifically about the making of this film, seems kind of under the radar. i guess this was some sort of personal journey, making this one. i also suspect it was a play first, turned into a screen story.

they didn't really make it cinematic, though. hence the boring stretches.


for anyone who wants a really edge of the seat drama about a struggling family trying to get into the oil business, watch "THE STARS FELL ON HENRIETTA"

okay, LTUM is signing off here, done with this one.

thanks


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I think the point of the movie was time inevitably changes things. Some rare people have the strength of character to handle it and some people don't. In this movie, the rare people, three of them, were on the porch, two sitting and one standing, at the end of the movie.

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The point is that, as time passes, families have a tendency to gravitate to the lowest common denominator. Salt of the earth people like Hume Cronyn's character, or James Earl Jones' character are a dying breed. Each generation has a little less character, a little less backbone. The work ethic disappears, as do values, morals, respect for and willingness to learn from the past, saying yes to life and life affirming things, saying no to, and avoiding negativity and destructive forces, a willingness to pull one's own load and make one's own way. The second generation in this film shows one stage of such deterioration, the third generation shows it only worsens. They expect to be cared for and never raise a hand to do an honest day's work or experience any real feeling for anyone but themselves. Each succeeding generation is more helpless and shiftless than anyone that came before. A more heavy-handed approach to this would have been more "preachy," and hit the viewer over the head with these points. Mr. Foote and those who made this film, took a more subtle path, giving the viewer(s) credit for being able to figure it out for themselves.

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I think grumpyoldguy is pretty close, but I saw a bit more. It's more about how different people handle challenges, the promise of money, the lack of it and challenges in life in general.

I think the movie was also about how the family unit is breaking down. It used to be our strength, but people know less and less of their family and don't see each other as much as we used to when the world was "smaller".

When they start to come together on the ranch the rain is gone and the skies are blue and sunny.

I'd say to that a lot of those plotlines that seem to "go nowhere" is because that's where the characters go. Some show growth, others just stay in the same sad place.

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Slow slow slow. The dumb Texas redneck stuff of the family got old fast

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