Shelob


It seems there is a video game version of her human form and she's actually kind of hot: https://shadowofwar.fandom.com/wiki/Shelob

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Seriously? I didn't even know she had a human form. I could swear she was little more than a dangerous, giant spider whose sole purpose was to make arachnophobes shit their pants while watching ROTK.

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From what we know from the novel from what I remember she’s an evil being in spider form and she’s been in Mordor longer than Sauron. I think the spiders Bilbo and Thorin encountered were her offspring.

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It never mentioned in the books that she could take on other forms, but then again, it didn't say she couldn't. I know that she was supposed to be the last offspring of Ungoliant who was also an evil entity in spider form back in the Silmarillion days. I don't see any reason why they couldn't have human forms I suppose.

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Whatever she is all we do know is she is all kinds of evil. But if that's her human form then she is pretty hot.

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As I recall, Radagast refers to them as spawn of Ungoliant, who also spawned Shelob. Like Sauron, Shelob is not as powerful as her predecessor.

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I would.

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It's the downside of the Lord of the Rings films: the popularity makes it marketable by those motivated by greed. When it was "just" the most revered book series in fantasy lit, only those who respected it got ahold of it. Now there's a bunch of video games and "Hungry for the Quest" Pizza Hut tie-ins.

Still, it meant we got three top-drawer films, so...whatever, I'll just ignore the games and whatnot.

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Some of the early games were actually good. I blame a recent 2010s trend of needing to make everything “sexy” for dumbing down our media. I suspect Game of Thrones had a lot to do with it

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I feel like I wrote that quickly and was a bit too trite. So, by way of clarifying, expanding, and maybe softening some of my hardline statements:

I'm more rolling my eyes at happy meal type stuff than games. Games, in general, if people have fun playing them, I say go for it. I used to play Lord of the Rings: Vol. 1 for SNES because that was all there was, and that's a *terrible* game. But I will acknowledge that, sometimes, you're a Tolkien nut and you want to immerse yourself in that world and play in Middle Earth and you takes what you can gets.

The thing that dispirits me a bit is that pre-famous Lord of the Rings was kinda niche, still very special, and like belonging to a special club (although it was pretty wide-spread, it felt like a secret club just with a large membership). Everybody who was there tended to love the source material deeply and would be appalled at watering it down. Nothing is ruined, of course, no matter how mainstream it gets, but there is a small sense of loss when a bunch of people who don't care come storming in and consume it like they would, well, a happy meal. It's like watching a five-star chef prepare a sumptuous banquet, sitting down and savouring every bite, and then a bunch of party people come in and start wolfing it down. They're laughing, having a good time, enjoying the food - and that's not a bad thing per se - but it's a bit depressing watching them miss the bigger picture.

Of course, nothing is ruined or diminished. The movies were flawed, but they were still great and the books are not (cannot) be harmed by such things.

As a final clarification/confession: I haven't played any of the games myself, although I did see the early ones being played quite a bit. They looked like generic action games; again: as a LotR fan, sometimes you take what's there.

The Game of Thrones influence worries me greatly, particularly with the Amazon series. I am a bit worried that that series will wind up being a woke, sexy nightmare.

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