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Deserves way more than 6.8.

posted 7 years ago by mh-newressistance
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It should be way higher. Yes, this movie is a comic book movie that follows a lot of tropes of the genre, but there are still many unorthodox aspects to the film that we never saw in previous comic book films (at the time). Lovecraftian horror elements - never was used in comic book movies before. A snarky, egocentric protagonist who is not your typical do-gooder - never was used in comic book movies before (Blade doesn't count, and Wolverine wasn't the main character of the X-Men, despite being the center). A love interest who actually has emotional layers and is just as conflicted as the hero - never was used in comic book movies before. And don't forget that this was the first superhero movie that was dealing with mysticism. (Crow I wouldn't consider a superhero movie. It is a revenge movie with supernatural elements.)

[–] PreachCaleb 7 years ago

I love this movie. Ron Perlman as Hellboy is as perfect a casting choice as RDJ as Tony Stark or Christopher Reeve as Superman.

Seize the moment, 'cause tomorrow you might be dead.

[–] MisterCMoney 7 years ago

If anything, it deserves less. Hellboy is an idiotic mess that just showcases what a hack Guillermo Del Toro truly is. Hellboy isn't even the main character of the movie! We spend most of the time following that rookie agent that joins the group. And what little screentime that does involve him barely focuses on any of the supernatural stuff, instead focusing on that stupid romance arc between him and Liz... something that wasn't even in the comics! And despite the sequel giving him more screen time, it did the exact same thing, putting the love story at the forefront at the cost of everything else. It's like Del Toro was ashamed of the source material.

MCU? DCEU? Neither: They both suck.

[–] PreachCaleb 7 years ago

Gotta disagree. While it's true, Meyers is the audience surrogate, the move is still Hellboy's story. It's his journey we follow and his character that goes through the big moments and decisions. It's his actions that drive the story forward. Meyers is just there to ease us into this new world. It's classic storytelling.

And while it's true some stuff was not in the comics, that's true for every comic book movie ever made. They all have things that weren't in the comics. But the difference here is the creater of Hellboy was involved in the making of the movie and actually likes some of the changes. The relationship between Hellboy and Broom for starters was given more depth as a father/son dynamic.

The Golden Army is also a good movie. It further deepens the bond between the characters and provides a menacing yet tragic villain.

Shame had nothing to do with it. It was Del Toro telling a story about family.

Seize the moment, 'cause tomorrow you might be dead.