PURE TRIPE
Canadian art-film, trying oh-so-hard to be 'shocking'.
Ho hum, don't waste your time.
Actually I think its trying to put across a very strong message. Maybe i'm just stupid though.
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The movie is not trying to be shocking at all. In the interviews with Karim Hussain, he states what the film is trying to say. Even I knew what the message was when I watched it. You just have to actually think and have above average intelligence to comprehend it.
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Said the man/woman who posted/advertised this amongst the grossest films of all time in the Hostel board (doing the work of the director).
A LOT of the time when people make films to shock you (Cannibal Holocaust, Faces of Death, Men Behind the Sun), the directors say it has a deeper meaning with some message about society/the individual/religion/etc.. It's an excuse so that the film won't be bashed as much as it otherwise would and an appeal to pseudo intellectuals to get them to watch it and try to bring the credability up and talk about it and dupe people like you into thinking it's something more than it really is, and give then the feeling of intellectual superiority for watching it and defending it.
Was there a secondary message/purpose to the film? Perhaps, but said secondary messages/purposes are in almost every piece of art (and I mean art as in something someone created using their imagination and has usually put to some form of media, not as in "this is a work of art" type art), and often these shock films are born out of something seen/experienced in real life that is more legit (seeing human cruelty on/in the news or in person), but that doesn't hide the purpose of the film. The fact is that the primary (far and wide) purpose in this film is to shock you and disturb you, if it wasn't he would have used different imagery and a different approach. It's the difference between Virgin Spring and The Last House on the Left, or The River's Edge and Ken Park.
if you can't se the messege in cannibal holocaust you are a stupid *beep* american.
shareeverything has at least two menaing if u really try hard to think about it. but that doesnt mean u have to find that meaning. cant u just watch movie for pure enjoyment? lol as per this movie (Subconscious Cruelty)...thank God for fast worward button (speaking of god, that Jesus killing/eating/having sex scene seems to be kinda funny right now)
shareNo, you're a *UCKING IDIOT -IF- you support SH!T like Cannibal Holocaust, that godawful *rap.
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Deodato never hyped up Cannibal Holocaust as a deep film himself, that was mostly the fans.
shareYou just have to actually think and have above average intelligence to comprehend it.
Doesn't mean you have to like it or agree with the way this "message" is being presented. share
Well, it's not trying, it IS hard. Indeed one of the visually hardest films I've ever seen.
Shocking... I don't know, it's not really well-known and too much Avantgarde, to much artistic to be a "shocker". It's just weird (but excellent) art, definitely not for everyone and definitely not for people who are out for stupid-ass gory horror flicks.
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What the hell... there's actually an intelligent person on this board? Where'd you come from?
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Bunch of garbage
I never drink, wine.
At least Cannibal Holocaust was an entertaining film, regarding of whatever message it was trying to convey (I just thought it was a nasty horror movie).
But Subconscious Cruelty was just plain boring rubbish. It wasn't really all that shocking at all. The scenes dragged on and really weren't that visually fascinating either. I just watched Immortals and that was far more visually interesting, and that's a friggin blockbuster popcorn flick not an arsty, abstract film.
As for the double meanings, so what were they? This is certainly no Mulholland Drive or El Topo!
People that don't get it don't deserve to have it explained to them.
It's my favorite film of the past few hours, and I haven't even watched it.