Garbage Ending


Made no sense at all.....such trash.

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Yeah, I get that part. But why would his master want to kill him?

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Ghost Dog saved his life. If you were Louie, wouldn't you just let him go and tell your bosses he was killed?

Just sad to see him die in the end.

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I was very sad to see Ghost Dog die at the end too.

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The ending reminded me of the pharse, "live by the sword, die by the sword". Ghost Dog knew the consequences of associating with the Mafia, thus accepting the possibility of his own demise through samurai teachings.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not.

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The girl seemingly moved up the mafia ranks.

Louie was taking orders from her. Which is why when Ghost Dog told him he would be running his own crew now because no one was left, he responded along the lines of "it's not that simple".

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Wow, you're right. I can't believe I didn't catch that. The girl is now a boss of some sort.

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Plus Im sure she would want revenge for her dad being killed...

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good point

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I don't think it's as much personal vengeance. Louis doesn't really like, or trust, his bosses. But he, like Ghost Dog, follows a code, just a different one. And this means he has to avenge his bosses.

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Dying for one's master or in battle is a high honor for a samurai.

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He didn't die for him though. He was killed by him. It made no sense at all.

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he did die for his master, don't you see?

To prove his allegiance and standing within the 'clan'(mob), and also to avenge the others, Louie had to take out Ghost Dog. This order was coming down from the new boss(the daughter). Ghost Dog knew this and saw it coming, thus he let Louie kill him. He died helping his master stay within the upper ranks of the mob.

After Ghost Dog's coop was destroyed, he started his plan to take out all the mobsters. At that point, he knew he was going to die. That's why he sent the message about performing one action with certainty while being decapitated. He knew once he started offing mobsters, someone(probably Louie, since Ghost Dog wouldn't kill him) would end up killing him to take vengeance.

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Ok, nice breakdown. I see what you are saying.

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I get that Ghost Dog died for his master but would a Samurai kill his master's masters? He put Louie in a really bad spot. What if Ghost Dog didn't kill them all? They would've held Louie responsible for this guy killing a bunch of mobsters. He made Louie look really bad and could've gotten him "whacked". Ghost Dog never had the intention of running away and living his life so why not just turn himself over to Louie to begin with or kill himself?

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It seemed like Ghost Dog was only dedicated to his master specifically. Beyond that, he had control over what he wanted to do. Once he found out that the mob was against him, he was against he mob. Louie just happened to be in the mob. He made sure Louie wouldn't get killed by shooting him in the arm.

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Yup, that's true.

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Yea that was the point of the ending and film. They knew it wouldn't be popular but that was the point. That one should do the right thing no matter the consequences and they acted accordingly.

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How can the ending not make any sense? Did you watch the beginning of the movie? See the first quote from Ghost Dog's book, the one that talks that being effectively dead and constantly preparing for one's death is the way of Samurai. This was a huge hint. In fact, the quote was just for the 'unwashed' western masses. Anyone familiar with the history of Japan, a country with possibly the most ritualized culture of suicide at least in the past, would know that a true Samurai is expected to commit a suicide at his master's wish at any moment. Frankly, the quotes of Ghost Dog's book give away pretty much all of meaning there is to this movie.

The master (Louie) certainly needed Ghost Dog dead once mob bosses were killed. This was the only way for Louie himself to stay alive if he was to continue with the same mob, much of which seemed like a bunch of in-laws and other relatives. The mob clearly continued to exist, as there was still Vargo's daughter left, the driver, and possibly other characters. In my view, we haven't seen all of the mob. In fact, what we have seen may have been just a branch of a bigger mob. With the clear realization of this, Ghost Dog gave all of his valuables to Raymond (the ice cream truck guy), took Raymond's gun away, unloaded his own, and gave up himself to the master. The girl reads the last book quote in the film, the one about the importance of the end to all things. The end. Very well done IMO.

Any sort of "happy end" would have destroyed this movie.



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Yeah, you make some valid points. It's just hard to watch him kill Ghost Dog after everything they went thru.

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If you look closely you can see Tony Soprano lurking in the bushes, making sure that Ghost Dog gets blammed.

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Garbage film altogether. A perfect example of a film that's sole purpose is to intermingle so called subtleties to try and appear brilliant. Absolutely nothing was hard to understand or pick up even if you're only halfway paying attention. Jarmusch failed hard on this film.

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This is one of the coolest movies ever made. If that's lost on you, I'm sorry.

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Some of his other films are better - this one did nothing for me.

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Fair enough.

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I didn't like this movie as well.

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