antiabortion propaganda
How many of you even noticed this is just a zealot anti abortion propaganda?
http://tinyurl.com/rveqd
Oh come on!!Aren't you overreacting a little?
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MovieChat Forums > Felicia's Journey (1999) Discussion > antiabortion propaganda
not at all, the case for abortion was put very well by the bob hoskins character and the fears and worries of the girl with a typical irish catholic upbringing struck an interesting view from the other side of the argument,im sure some girls have had terminations and wondered if they had done the right thing, it didnt seem particularly for or anti to me.
shareWell it IS implying that doctors performing the abortion are worse than murderers like Hilditch. Because even HE coudn't do it. Felicia is also saved by God at the end. There you have it. Propaganda.
http://tinyurl.com/rveqd
this is not an anti abortion film, the bob hoskins character despite his earlier protestations has no qualms about paying for an abortion when it is his interests, and irish catholic girls and god are hardly unlikely bedfellows, in the context of the film the viewpoints expressed are consistent with the characters, the character played by hoskins put forward good reasons for having the abortion and paid to have it done.
shareHoskins character couldn't kill/harm Felicia until she lost her mother identity. When he promotes the abortion, he is doing so to manipulate her and the situation in his favor. It has nothing to do with her reproductive rights or the fetus's rights. If anything, he is violating Felicia's rights as a human being. So, no this movie does not advocate either side of the abortion issue in my opinion.
shareI think you hit the nail on the head with this comment.
The way I saw it was, Hilditch could have killed Felicia with no guilt at all had she not been pregnant. But for some reason he couldn't kill her knowing she was pregnant.
However, he was more calculatingly evil in that he could persuade Felicia to have an abortion she didn't want (although probably was in her best interests) in order to remove his guilt at killing an unborn baby. That way when he had got round to killing Felicia, he would just be killing one person.
But indirectly he did kill her baby because he persuaded her to have the abortion. He manipulated her enough to agree to an abortion, so minimised his guilt by giving Felicia the "decision" to make, even though he knew how she would decide in the end.
In the situation Felicia was in, the irony is, the abortion was the right thing for her. The complication is that the evil force in the film (Hilditch) brings it about.
"If we go on like this, you're going to turn into an Alsatian again."
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I think you are being hysterical. The story has nothing to do with abortion politics.
shareActually, I thought it was more anti-choice propaganda. It plays to the biggest lie peddled by the anti-choice movement: that women who have abortions know, deep down, they are "murderers" and suffer for it for the rest of their lives.
shareReally... this movie is not Bella. It is a very complex movie and to reduce it to either pro or anti abortion propoganda is ludicrous.
Perhaps it should play to the "biggest lie peddled" by the pro-abortion movement that abortion is the moral equivalent to cutting one's hair or clipping one's toenails and that no one should feel any regret or concern over having one. Felicia cared deeply for her boyfriend (even if he was a cad). Whether or not the abortion was in her best interest or not, she obviously was pained to eradicate the fruit of that union. That doesn't make the movie pro-life, especially as she didn't seem to be suffering in the end as you indicate.
I think at the end Felica lists the dead girls' names and makes reference to regretting letting her baby go and says something to the effect "We were all victims." That includes herself and her baby also. Now to Felicia having an abortion was making her baby a victim. That's true for her character but that doesn't necessarily mean the movie was antiabortion. It was a movie about a psycho guy with a mother complex.
THE SEX THING
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMo2qxiwajk&feature=related
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Even funnier is the fact anti-choice conservatives claim to be "pro-life," yet oppose universal day care, universal health care, equity in education, and practically every other policy that would make life better for children once they're born.
Right now, about 1/4 of pregnancies are terminated. If abortion were re-criminalized and abortions could be stopped (impossibel), what plan do the People of God have for all those millions of children and their mothers? Answer: no plan at all.
"Even funnier is the fact anti-choice conservatives claim to be "pro-life," yet oppose universal day care, universal health care, equity in education, and practically every other policy that would make life better for children once they're born."
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Excellent response fileboy2002
But you forgot another important fact - anti-choice conservatives, also overwhelming support the death penalty - they are only interested in children as long as they are in the womb, once they're born they could care less, it has nothing to do with "life", it has to do with complete control, along with the feeling that they are the only ones who have a true connection to God, and knowing what Her will is, and that no matter what your personal religion is, they want to put their particular brand of religion into the government so it can make laws to control personal and private decisions for everyone.
Vivlin and fileboy, fully agree.
Keep one eye, my friends, on the elegant universe...
Well, for one thing, it would be nice if those children were taken care of by their parents. Any help that they are given is nice, but how about taking a little personal responsibility.
Why do you think the world needs a plan for what you do with your child?
"Mr. Nice Guy" couldn't kill Felicia while she was pregnant, which probably had to do with his mother fixation. He talked her into having the abortion so he could then carry out his plan of murder. This was part of the plot and that's all!
shareWell said. Sometime an abortion is "just" an abortion -- it doesn't involve a conspiracy on the part of the filmmaker to change the viewer's mind on an issue the viewer has more than likely already decided before watching this film.
Or you could look at it this way: Having an abortion "saved" Felicia, because it bought her time to recover while he dug her grave. So this film is a radical statement by the pro-choice fanatics. Yeah, that's it!
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