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I could never get invested in this show because I found Hyde to be a completely unlikable scumbag


I've watched maybe 5-10 episodes total of this series during its run and maybe tidbits of other episodes here and there but there was always something off about the show that I didn't like. I finally realized it was Hyde. I couldn't stand the character. He's a total prick, constantly mocking everything & everyone and a pretty crappy friend on numerous occasions. I'm sure there are lots more examples but most predominately I remember that he casually tries to bang his "best friend's" girlfriend & later in the series starts dating his other "friend's" recently ex girlfriend despite this friend still being heartbroken over it. Never mind that Hyde (like he does with most everyone else) had been mocking and insulting her for years. I found Hyde to be the perfect example of the scumbag "friend" that many people have but that nobody wants. I just found the character to be a completely insufferable scumbag of a friend & hated how prominently he was featured. I'm sure I would have watched more of the show if not for him.

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He does come across as a douche for sure.

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Most of the characters are clueless to their own short-comings so I suppose this was Hyde. I never took the show so seriously as to be concerned over his character. He seemed like maybe he should have been hanging out with a different group of friends, but simply for a comedy show, he delivered pretty well.

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he was supposed to be the 'fonzie' of the show.. but it didn't work bc 1) Danny Masterson never became a teen hearthrob off screen ala Henry Winkler 2) Hyde remained 'sour' and 'edgy' throughout the entire series and did not change personality in any way.

Kelso actually assumed the 'growing up' role in this series.

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Whenever I see comments directed at an actor I often wonder if it's more a director/writer/producer problem.
Not that I care about Masterson one way or the other, and I guess Fonzie took everyone by surprise, but if 70's failed to deliver on Hyde, I'm not sure it's all Danny's fault.
No, I didn't find him terribly charismatic, but I didn't find him odious either. Just a guy hanging with his pals. Kelso was a brain-dead doofus, but I guess because he was tall and good-looking he was adopted by the viewers. A lot like Travolta from Welcome Back, Kotter.

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personally on that show I liked Horshack a LOT better. Yes I know everybody was SUPPOSED to gush over Travolta/Barbarino---did not do anything for me. Actually it annoyed me.

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It was hardly just Kelso's looks that explains why he was the more popular character & why Kutcher had far more success & popularity outside of the show. Kutcher brought a certain degree of likable charm & on screen charisma, despite playing an air headed doofus, that the Hyde actor was woefully lacking.

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i thought he was totally out of place with those friends as well.. even Fez kinda fit better.

but then again so was Kramer on Seinfeld. idk he was OK i guess, the show was alright

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Eric does not come across as the total prick in that group. Really he's too good for them....oh but he lets them use his basement? Fez would be a close second since he is trying to be good.

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How could that be when I described being put off by the character during the show's original run that began over 20 years ago. I was a kid at the time and I hated his character then. Perhaps it could have been his real scumbag personality coming out through the character.

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He was

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To be fair, about Hyde having an affair with Jackie, Kelso had cheated on her numerous times which is why she got with Hyde later.

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My point in highlighting Hyde as a scumbag & terrible friend wasn't meant to excuse Kelso's behavior which in turn doesn't excuse Hyde's scumbag move of "poaching" his "friend's" recently ex girlfriend against his wishes, along with with other laundry list of scumbag behavior

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From what I remember though Jackie broke up with Kelso before getting with Hyde. I will agree he is a jerk at times though.

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The point you're missing is that it doesn't matter that they were broken up, because any half decent friend isn't going to "poach" on their friend's recently ex girlfriend. Let alone a recently ex girlfriend who said friend is still hung up on. It's a scumbag move, for a consistently scumbag character.

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Here's the way I see it.

You are confusing TV scumbags with real life scum bags. Also you are not considering when the show jumped the shark (JTS).

As you described, my group of high school friends had a scumbag who was only like by one person in the group. He had no redeeming qualities. Well, he was highly intelligent which is a trait of a sociopath.

Hyde is a TV scumbag and does have redeeming qualities. He doesn't steal from friends. He wouldn't let someone take the fall for something he did. My "friend" would and did. If you relate Hyde to real life I can understand why you don't like him. Because in real life he would really suck.

Once most shows JTS the writing becomes inconsistent and other forms of bad. That's 70's Show followed that pattern.

Pre-JTS Hyde did not like Jackie and would not have dated her. Hyde only started dating her post-JTS, so he did care for Jackie and believe felt a modicum of guilt, but was concerned about the way Kelso had treated her than he felt guilt about dating her.


Real life Hyde would have banged Jackie a few times because she was a fox and bragged to Kelso to hurt him further.

So I understand your point of view.


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I think I touched on this before but the key problem with the Hyde character was that on top of his scumbag "friend" tendencies & in general crappy personality, the actor simply wasn't funny or charismatic enough to make the character likable, unlike Ashton Kutcher

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I can see that, too

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