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on my list of never to watch again


This was one of the most boring movies I've ever seen.

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I'm about as big a Scorsese fan as there is.....but this was just beyond boring.

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Bad movie with great actors but real no storyline. A real bore.

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u want some plot? want some story? why don't u beg to Spielberg or james cameroon? This is some real hardcore Scorsese stuff babe! No eye candy fr ya!

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It's badness was not due to lack of effects. The whole things was just flat boring and anyone who says otherwise is in denial. A movie without effects must still have great acting and story and this had neither of those.

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then you arent a real scorsese fan...i cant believe you, you disgust me...

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"then you arent a real scorsese fan...i cant believe you, you disgust me..."

lol

no, LOLz

oh man, and I guess you are a real Scorsese...I mean, scorsese fan
Good for you, kid!
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Scar Jokes, u didn't like my joke. Why not call me a cnt, but call me fake on Yahoo!Answers?

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As a former urban EMT in the 1980's - I thought this show was exeptionally dead-on in its depictions of life as an EMT - the realism flaws were so minor as to be trivial - my personal story would be written a bit differently, but the show brought flashbacks for me - something would-be medics might want to watch before taking that City job.

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Please tell me about you're familiarity with the scene where the ambulance flips over in the middle of downtown Manhattan in the middle of the night and sits there with no one seeming to notice. Is this dead-on?

This movie was a stupid waste of time.

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Idiots none of you understood this masterpiece because your just a bunch of ignorant 13 year olds. Boring boring boring is all you ppl say what do you look for in a movie? Mindless action every second? Jesus christ theres more to a movie than that but i dont bother explaining this to very immature, ignorant ppl like yourselfs.

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exactly, very well said

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I 100% stand by you. Ignorance is a major problem in the western world.

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Well TV is the problem, kids shows like Seseme Street are made up of short segments that are sometimes "brought to you by the letter B", this sets kids up for smaller attention spans, gearing them ready for ads and commercial television (the 'letter B', as in some sponsered product...).

BTW, I was never actually bored by Bringing out the Dead, but I still don't like it very much.
The script is the problem: the ideas are there, but they are forgotten half way through, making the film mostly incoherent in its handling of themes. I was intrigued by the ghost idea, including Rose, but quickly lost interest.

Then, of course, those strange things started happening, such as the van flipping over without the drivers caring at all...

A 5/10 for me.

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I watched it not knowing what to expect. I found it v good in places, but alot of the time it was bad tbh. I think the film had so many potential storylines but failed to really go for and execute any of them. Such a shame

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"I 100% stand by you. Ignorance is a major problem in the western world."

Speaking of ignorance, look who just ASSUMED that all the haters are from the western world? Hypocritic loser.

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Did he say haters mate? I sure dident hear it and thiers quite a difference between haters and ignorance. In the western world ignorance is everywere because we seem to be.. well "spoilt"

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Some only say it's a masterpiece because it's from Martin Scoresese. Also a good director can make a bad movie. Just look at Steven Spielberg. He can be brilliant but also make crap movies.

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you're wrong. sorry. that's just the way it is. this movie is extremely good, very haunting, and delves into cage's deteriorating psyche. cage's character, whatever. i liked this better than both the aviator and gangs of new york, scorcese's attempts at big budget hollywood classics. and if you haven't seen the departed yet, log off now, shut down the computer, walk out of the house, and go see it, while pretending its not leo and brad up there on the screen being badasses.

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i really like this film. but the only thing that kills it is all the scenes with patricia. i love her but she is just so drab it brings the pace too far down. but overall a good film

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You cannot compare Steven Speilberg to Scorsese. Steven Speilberg is not even close to the director that Scorsese is. Yeah Speilberg is a good director too, but not like Scorcesse, that's why Speilberg had some bad movies, I can't say the same for Scorsese.

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"dident" and "thiers"???? Most ignorant people would not be that far off in their spelling. Hint: you mean the contractions for "did not" and "there is".
BTW, I liked the film, the music, and Patricia Arquette.

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Ok maybe not the whole western world, but mostly in the US ignorance is definately a problem, and I'm sure a lot of people will agree with me on that. But i guess its not the peoples faults they can't open up their minds to new ideas. It's the governments fault.

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I don't think it's a Western problem - but I really enjoyed this movie.

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100 behind you i mean ignorant people dont want to watch a good movie like this when people can watch soul plane and you got served dumb movies like that are not real what scorsese does is real movies that describes how life is hard raw and real.

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I've studied films at degree level and I like some very slow moving films such as Stranger than Paradise and Citizen Kane. I am not saying I know all there is to know about movies and I appreciate films that are not seen as great by many (The Postman, Hulk Hogan movies, etc). However, I thought this film was very poor, as did my mother, brother, father and wife. We all cheered when it ended. Therefore it is not 13 year olds nor ignorant people who think the film is poor. In fact not all the critics loved it either, Cosmo Landesman said "This is a work of poor imitation from an immature talent who thinks he's Martin Scorcese." Now, again I'm not saying this critic knows it all, I'm just a little agitated with that attitude you have.

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or some people connect more with a more traditional 3 act structure. someone enjoying a strong plot is no different to a music fan connecting with melody or structure. you not an idiot if you dont like sun o))), its just not for you, similarly just because you don't like films that dont use plot as a spine for a film but character instead doesnt make you an idiot. its just not to your taste. eveyone doesnt have to connect with everything, people can have opinions.

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Interesting that you draw a parallel between an affection for a tightly woven narrative in motion pictures to a preference for a strong melody line in music.

Good analogy, and one I had never considered before.

And for what it's worth, that's an apt description of me. I have always been a plot guy. And yes, I definitely prefer my music to have a melody.

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Yes because if someone disagrees with you they are an idiot. I love Scorsese but this movie was bad. It was depressing and offered no hope to anyone. If it would have given a glimmer taht something perhaps could one day get better for someone, even if it meant everyone else would be destroyed, it would have a point. But the way it was presented it basically said "life sucks, always will and there is nothing good at all in it."

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this is easily his best film, this is a true 'auteur' film

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Yeah, I wish I rented this one before I saw it on the Wal-Mart discount rack. I like most of Marty's movies, but nobody hits it out of the park every time.

Be thankful your Mama died givin' birth, if she saw you today she'd die of shame!

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My father was a paramedic (EMT) for 21 years, and, ignoring some of the story choices, he thinks that this film is the best portrayal of medics that he's seen.

And yes, my father actually did flip an ambulance, although that was due to the fact that it was well past being due for repair, and despite months of writing out forms and pestering them to get the ambulances fixed, they didn't, and my father very nearly died because of it!

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I'm not sure that this movie was so much about the paramedic job, or the downward spiral of a lunatic.
I'm sure it's a stressful job, but it didn't help Nick Cage's character to be a drinking insomniac either.
Does that happen to all paramedics? Nope.
Does Nick Cage overact? Yep.
If I want to see him do crazy, I will stick to Raising Arizona.

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I threw this sh*t movie out my window

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It is true that the movie has no story. But to assume that a movie has to have a story to be good is bad philosophy. Movies merely have to express themselves as best they can, in whatever style they embody, because there is no one way a movie should be made. Bringing Out the Dead is an episodic, surrealist look at Hell's Kitchen. To expect a story and realism from a movie of this sort just, well, doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

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He was a drunk and an insomniac cause his job, and yes everyone knows this doesn't happen to all paramedics, your a master of the obvious tmnoble.

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you know.... i think the reason some people call movies like this "boring" or "ignorant" is because they are very dishonest with themselves... and everything is all peachy in thier little realm of existance... Don't know about you guys, but seems to me 21st century earth (especially America) is a pretty *beep* place to be from an emotional standpoint... is the movie over melodramatic... yes.. .is it supposed to be ... yes... that is the point... there are certian parts of human nature, especially how something you love and decide to put your life into can come back and rupture the very reason you choose to live and love... that is what this movie is about... it is not literal just like most of martin's movies... if you don't get that then there are hundreds of other "deep" movies you probably didn't like either... i think the best example i can remember from the same timeframe is the thin red line... and if you don't get my coorelation i am guessing you "hated" both of these movies... now do i want to watch either of these movies over and over agian... absolutely not.. but i recognize their depiction of the part of my heart i hold so intolerably near

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I agree.

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You're entitled to your own opinion, but I have to disagree with you. When I first saw this movie, I was enthralled at every second; don't get me wrong, I love action, too. But just because this film was a little short on the physical crazyness of your cheesy big-time hollywood crap, doesn't mean it doesn't have artistic merit, and a beautiful message burried underneath the "boring" images.

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i remember seeing this years ago and not liking it either, every other Scorsese movie i've seen was outstanding, but this was just bad. I wouldn't mind looking out for it and giving it another chance, maybe on a second viewing (not being able to remember any of it doesnt help either) might change my mind.

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This movie does not deliver a good story, i think that mch is clears, at least in the traditional sence of a story, even compared to other works of scorsese this comes up short in the area of a story, but what the film goes not lack is feel, the mood of this film is amazing and intense and it drew me into frank's world. what is see in it is a story made b a man in love with New York. Scorsese made a movie that works as a artpeice showcasing a section of New York City. Watching the haunting style and wet city streets the movie makes new york as much a character as anything and that is waht makes the film unforgettable

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all art is subjective. you cant critisize a person because of their perspective.

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*beep* you it rocked.

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yeah, art is subjective. but not to the point where someone can completely misinterpret a piece of art and judge it based on their misinterpretation. people watched this saying it "had no story" and that it was "unrealistic" because of the ambulance flipping. i'm gonna go out on a limb and say that they're misinterpreting the intentions of the film and the actions within, and so their opinion is NOT valid. you can't NOT understand a piece of art and expect to be viewed as a credible judge.

when people say picasso or pollack couldn't paint, or their paintings suck because they aren't perfect pieces of Realism, those people's opinions are not valid because their own thoughts are ruining the experience for them. the exact same thing can be said for this film (and quite a lot, i've noticed on imdb).

That's the problem with over half the people on this board. every movie board i've gone to has had at least one "worst...movie...ever" or "how does anyone like this movie?" thread, and it alternately makes me laugh and retch. not only do people not REALIZE that they are WRONG in their interpretations, but they assume that they are so right in their interpretations as to be in a position to dogmatically state the quality of a movie. it's f'ing ridiculous. when i watch a movie and dislike, my immediate reaction isn't to start insulting it (hell, that's not even my 6th or 12th or 13th reaction). i immediately evaluate what i didn't like, how that affected the experience and potential reasons why the filmmakers would have chosen to do that. evaluating a movie is an experience. i LOVED bringing out the dead, but assuming i didn't, assuming i hated it initially, would i think that the movie NOT having a fast-paced storyline with a neat gift-wrapped ending, and marquee displayed messages and themes was a problem of the filmmakers? No, because problems like that with a movie are almost always going to be the viewers. anytime anyone says "the movie was wayyyy too slow" or "the movie had NOOO plot" i'm immediately suspicious of the viewer, because gaddamn! is all you want Gone in 60 seconds? Impatient, shallow, surface viewers like the ones posting here are the very REASON a lot of studios insist that every X amount of minutes has to have a certain story arc, or a love scene, or a tit shot, etc. If people were willing to appreciate more than just the literal action in a film, if people watched films for the cinematography, or the use of themes, or underlying story arcs, than there'd still be a lot better studio funded movies. it's ridiculous.

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This usually isnt my type of movie but it really caught me up. The photograph and cinematography were just brilliant and i actually found the movie very fast paced. And im surprised that people can say there's no story when the movie shows hundreds of them. Each person is portraited with extreme realism unlike most of the cliche characters we see in most mainstream tapes. I'm most certain that the majority of the haters didnt happen to bother to see the whole movie. Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion but maybe you could just give it a chance. Or just wine and bitch away, who cares anyway? :>

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gtfo. This movie I saw along time ago on cable and couldn't remember what it was called, just remember cage was in it, and that I really liked how it depicted the drug use and effects on the characters of the story.. you call it boring, I call it brave. When I found out Scorcese directed it, it 'sealed the deal' for me. I suggest you wait until your a bit older and can fully understand the mindframe of an adult whose seen it all, especially before watching movies like this.. I mean there is SOME use for rating systems.. its to keep people like you whom with age and knowledge would enjoy a film like this, but do to inexperience you instead completely pass up and degrade a gem like this. This goes to show that you can never really judge a book by it's cover.. go watch Harry Potter instead.. it will be alot easier for people like you to follow. (Oh and someone should ban the chic above me... go to myspace with that sh!t..)

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For those of you who are saying this movie does not have a story or plot, the movie is about burnout in EMS. Those of us in EMS understand this movie and can relate to it. If you want to fully understand the movie, take an EMT or Paramedic class and work in EMS for a few years and then watch it again. I can guarantee your views will change.

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This is one of Scorsese's best works and certainly his most underrated. It's much better than The Departed.

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