This movie is terrible! I don't normally express my thoughts through this kind of medium, but after watching Bless the Child, I feel I have to! It is easily one of the worse movies I have unfortunately seen, and believe me I have seen some pretty bad movies! Let this be a warning to the person who may read these posts to get some kind of review of the the film before renting it or purchasing it. Avoid it like a plague.
shareI really liked the movie. Angela Bettis is a really nice woman in real life.
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yeah this movie was pretty cliche'd and predictable... the worst part was after we were done watching it, my mother said that this movie "confirmed her religious beliefs." things like that just blow me mind; i dont know which part of that statement to correct first, and my brain just gets an overload. god, i hate religion.
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Religion is one of the most useless things mankind has ever invented.
no, its useful, its just that the use is stupid... to comfort the weak minds of people who would rather dream up easy answers like god than confront the nature of reality.
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Point taken. God is some people's way of sweeping the difficult questions under the rug. They simply put their minds in neutral and say God did it. Problem solved. No need to think any further on the subject.
yup, what i said :P
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I read somewhere that religion was created so the poor wouldnt rebel and kill the rich.............. meaning......... enduring a life of struggle sacrifice and pain gets u to heaven where all the good things are.
All I know is religion is like communism................. great in theory but when people and their ego's become involved it all goes down the gurgler.
Religion is a comfort to some people and I dont agree with a previous post that stated it was for the weak minded. I think if u are a truely religious person and behave in a religious manner it is for the strong minded as in these current times its difficult to follow religious teachings to the letter. There are so many temptations out there and thusly a person with a strong mind can only follow the teachings.
Now if ur talking about cults that is a different kettle of fish.
And if u are talking about Muslims and the Koran, nowhere does it state that one must kill themselves and others to gain enlightenment or "gods" favour.
But that is a totally different thread isnt it?
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you dont need a strong mind to stick to religious teachings and resist temptation, but a strong will. a strong mind would let you use your REASONING to figure out that most religious teachings simply do not make sense.
i do agree with what you said about the rich/poor class. and suicide was made a sin so that the rich could milk the lower class for all its worth. they made the lower classes live like *beep* work all day, with seemingly no end in sight. so why go on? and if live is so horrible, why not just kill yourself and get into heaven? why its a sin, of course! how convenient.
and why do you say that cults are a different kettle of fish? all it is is another person, claiming to be englightened and speaking to god, the only difference being that this particular religion hasnt been around long enough and killed enough people to have it spread into a state of hegemony.
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"and if live is so horrible, why not just kill yourself and get into heaven? why its a sin, of course! how convenient. "
suicide is a sin because God decides when you die and when everyone dies... he has a plan for all of us.
when someone commits suicide they're messing with God's plan and playing God.
@ballerbabe:
god supposedly gave us free will so it is our "god given right" to kill ourselves if we so choose. i dont even know why i went with the premise that god exists and all this biblical nonsense. i feel stupider already.
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uhh ya God gave us a free will but not with the intention of allowing us to kill ourselves... God loved us so much that in creating us he gave us the freedom to reject that love... that is the point of free will and if some people freely choose to commit suicide.. they are rejecting God's love and saying that his plan does not work for them and there is no other way even though there is... and the way is through him
shareYou know - I do believe in God. And the uses of religion. And I know of a mother who thinks that this movie would confirm/strengthen her religious beliefs. I know of a sister who would bang her head on the wall for such a comment. And then there's me - I think that I was created (or evolved - I have no issues here) with an inquiring mind. I think that the God I believe in would accuse me of wasting my talents if I did not explore what this world has to offer. And that if I accidentally did something wrong and was sorry for it, He (or She, again, no issues) would forgive me. Judgement is a timewaster promulgated by humans. A God of love does not judge - and if you love others, neither will you.
Just my 2 cents - no offence intended :)
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you're right pheaho.. well put =)... i'm done here
shareWas it Voltaire who said, "Don't tell the servants there is no God, or else they'll be stealing the silver?"
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Bless the Child happened. Never mind 9/11 and the Inquisition.
shareisnt there also a quote "u make plans ans god laughs"
this means god knows how ur life will pan out before u make a choice.......so wouldnt that also mean that god knows that u will commit suicide? and if this is true how can u go to hell and it being a sin if god knew u were going to do this all along?
No offense but that didn't make a whole lot of sense. Just because God knows you're going to do something doesn't change whether it is a sin or not. If God knows I'm going to murder someone, because He is omnipotent and outside of time, it is still a sin. I still had the choice to murder or not murder. To kill myself or not to kill myself.
However, I've never heard the quote "you make plans and God laughs" and I'm not exactly sure where or if the Bible says that taking your own life is an unforgivable sin.
look guys... the universe is just like an unfathomably complex computer program, with fixed variables and fixed rules by which those variables function. every single atom in this universe abides by fundamental rules. so this leaves no room for free will, we are merely minds that react to the sum total of what we have become and what the world around us has become (nature + nurture). of course we have the illusion of free will and choice, because we "decide" to do things, but which decision we arrive to invariably relies on and is the result of the aforementioned things. i guess this view can be described as stoic, but relies on logic and reality instead of theological nonsense (but you can call all of these variables "god" if it makes you more comfortable with confronting reality, it doesnt change a thing).
for this outlook to work i guess one would have to reject chaos theory and the randomness of the universe it believes in. but even if you do subscribe to chaos theory it doesnt change much... instead of being the outcome of the sum total of things before and around us which has only one possible outcome, we are the result of random molecule collisions, neither of which are in our control.
so of course, this whole outlook implies that none of us can be blamed for anything we do, but so what? does that mean that we should do whatever we want? no, because this reality still exists, and so do the consequences of our actions.
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"No offense but that didn't make a whole lot of sense. Just because God knows you're going to do something doesn't change whether it is a sin or not. If God knows I'm going to murder someone, because He is omnipotent and outside of time, it is still a sin. I still had the choice to murder or not murder. To kill myself or not to kill myself."
Did you really?
If God is truly omniscient, then you cannot choose to do anything other than what God already knows you're going to do. If, for example, God *knows* you're going to murder your wife at ten minutes past four next Friday afternoon, then you cannot choose to *not* murder your wife, nor, for that matter, can you choose to murder her at any time other than ten past four next Friday. If you *can* make another choice, then God didn't really *know* what you were going to do, and is therefore not all-knowing.
Omniscience and free will cannot coexist. If God is omniscient, then free will does not exist. If free will exists, then God is not omniscient. You can't have it both ways.
And yes, it really is that simple.
unless one subscribes to weak determinism, jbaker. either way, its useless arguing with religious simpletons. relying on an undisprovable principle does have its benefits. but just because you cant disprove the existence of batman doesnt mean he exists.
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why is it that if some one is religious some one who is not allways loves to attack it? hummmmm..
sharebecause its the source of much evil and its fun to poke fun at lesser minds.
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its fun to poke fun at lesser minds.
PhDs in what, theology? what a waste of paper. that degree couldve at least served as toilet paper. or burned and given warmth to some transients.
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"why is it that if some one is religious some one who is not allways loves to attack it? hummmmm.."
Because religious people say the silliest things.. <G>
. If God knows I'm going to murder someone, because He is omnipotent and outside of time, it is still a sin. I still had the choice to murder or not murder. To kill myself or not to kill myself.I am a Christian who believes that God gave us all free will but also knows everything. That being said, I do not believe that God condemns those who are suffering (mentally) and takes their own life. Suicide and mental illness are such complex subjects. Being in a suicidal state of mind is not a "choice." Being severely mentally ill is not a choice.
@elidnelson.and I'm not exactly sure where or if the Bible says that taking your own life is an unforgivable sin.
One of the Ten commandments is"Tho shall not kill".Therefore killing yourself is a SIN.
One of the Ten Commandments is "Thou shall not kill". Therefore killing yourself is a SIN.
I read somewhere that religion was created so the poor wouldnt rebel and kill the rich.............. meaning......... enduring a life of struggle sacrifice and pain gets u to heaven where all the good things are.
All I know is religion is like communism................. great in theory but when people and their ego's become involved it all goes down the gurgler.
you better hope you're right...
shareThese atheists-fundamentalists are even worse then any Christian Orthodox beliver of middle ages.
You may hate religion it is your business but you can not deny other people right to be religious.
As much you hate religion such an idiotic way, others have full right to hate you as an usurpator of their rights.
Do not like the move because of religious material - go away and let others enjoy.
These atheists-fundamentalists are even worse then any Christian Orthodox beliver of middle ages. And you nailed it.
You may hate religion it is your business but you can not deny other people right to be religious.
As much you hate religion such an idiotic way, others have full right to hate you as an usurpator of their rights.
My wife downloaded this on our Xbox and we watched it tonight. Wow that movie was bad. I equate it with some movie I saw where people's canes turned into snakes when thrown at people's necks. The title of this thread is sweet.
shareI hate the movie. boring and awful
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