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How exactly are the martial arts depicted?


Could anyone tell me how exactly the fight scenes are goreographed in this movie, do they have a real sense of realism (like the fight scenes in for example "The last of the Mohicans") to them or do the fights look more like ballet than like actual fighting.

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If I remember correctly, the emphasis was on realism.

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Their is a very minimal amount of combat in comparison to most epics like this one. Their is no wire-fu. Their is no Yeng Wo Ping choreography.

Personally I love it for that. The realism this film embodies with it's combat sets it apart from a lot of other films of similar nature.

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Ok then, I really ought to check this film out some day, the comments (thanks for answering my question by the way) on the fight scenes sure sound good..

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If you're looking for a cliche martial arts action flick you're going to be seriously dissapointed. this is a drama, an amazing one at that.

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yup...the focus of the story revolve around asking "what if" on every aspect. The story of course, is fictional. Emperor Qin never had a mother who had an affair with the male servant, (lao ai) who appeared to be an eunuch but back then they don't castrate male servant until the late Han, that's why he is able to have 2 kids with her. Emperor Qin also never had a father who happened to be his own minister, neither did he ever had a relationship with lady zhao. But these people did existed in history book, just that the story is fictional and if you were a historian, then you won't be happy. But it's still very good story and very good acting, better than those of "Curse of the Golden flower", "Hero" or "Banquet"

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Hmmm, I recently saw the movie and the martial arts weren't depicted in the way I hoped they would be. It still came across as being a little bit too stylized for my taste. I would have liked the way the assassin killed his victims look very 'professional' kinda like how Tom Cruise kills his victims in 'Collateral'. But on the other hand, maybe that wouldn't have fit into the film.

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Seems like you were looking more for violence than drama.

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Well.. Violence and drama can go hand in hand can't they?

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Martial arts were not around during 250 BC. They didn't come around for a few hundred years.

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Are you being serious? People have always been fighting and they've always developed systems to make make their fighting more effective. Martial arts (meaning 'The arts of Mars' (Mars being the Roman god of war) is just a broad term for all the fighting systems that have ever existed and/or still exist in the world.
Martial arts have been around probably since the first humans (or human like beings) came into existence.

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Well, that would of course depent on the time in which the particular movie is set, this movie is set in the 2nd (or is the 3rd?) century B.C. and it doesn't have these various schools of martial arts so I guess that would make it hisorically accurate (at least on that point that is).

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Well, I was actually hoping for the movie to have some martial arts scenes which looked sort of like the way they were done in the movies 'Alatriste' (see http://youtube.com/watch?v=I5UMQX9PGPA or http://youtube.com/watch?v=nC9jkGdQ1Ek), 'Eastern Promises' (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Re37IVYO_MY), 'A History of Violence' or 'The Last of the Mohicans' (http://youtube.com/watch?v=5SoeDAPj6gg).

None of the fight scenes in 'The Emperor and the Assassin' have the over-the-top martial arts choreographies you see in a lot of Chinese 'martial arts' films, but they didn't come across as 'realistic' or brutal as is the case in the above examples (the videos contain spoilers by the way). It still felt pretty stylized compared to any of the above examples.

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Could anyone tell me how exactly the fight scenes are goreographed in this movie, do they have a real sense of realism (like the fight scenes in for example "The last of the Mohicans") to them or do the fights look more like ballet than like actual fighting.


The fighting is unglamorous, functionally brutal and normally very short.
On that basis it seemed realistic rather than coreographed.

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