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first time ever I had to

posted 16 years ago by jayt_26
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I LOVE horror. I have the best of em'. Recently, I watched Cannibal Holocaust out of curiosity. I didn't want to see it because of the animal cruelty, but being a fan of the genre I figured I had to watch it. I simply ff'd the animal scenes. Pretty disturbing film, I must admit, but I really enjoyed the social commentary in the film. So I decided to move on to the guinnea pig series, again out of curiosity. The first one I watched was "He Never Dies." I laughed myself silly, and at the same time, appreciated the gore. I loved where they went with that. Twisted, sick and hilarious. (I love comedy horrors as well, such as Evil Dead, Cabin Fever, Dead Alive, etc). Soooo, I thought, wow, maybe they are like that; horror comedy. Then I put on the Flowers one. I don't even remember the title because I DON'T WANT TO.

My GOD, was I surprised. It was the first time EVER, in 32 YEARS, that I COULD NOT FINISH A FILM. I'm dissapointed with myself, I must admit. But I literally began feeling sick to my stomach and HAD to turn it off. I looked over at my 2 month old son sleeping, thought about how innocent he is, and I just couldn't bring myself to finish the film. Wow. Kudo's to the director though, for achieving what he did with that flick. Point made.

Question: Besides the first entry in the series, are the others more like that one or "He Never Dies?"

Thanks!!

[–] El_Lep 16 years ago

The only other one with some comdey in it is is the final in the series: Devil Doctor Woman, but i don't reccomend it. The series took a terrible turn for the worst, the comedy isn't even funny and the gore is ketchup water.

im supprised you could watch CH and not Flower, seeing as CH seems a lot more real, in the sense that a lot of it is! Flower is easier to watch that Mermaid i think, that is the only film where i've ever actually felt sick...

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[–] jayt_26 16 years ago

I think that the situation was what made it worse. I was sitting at my wife's grandparents house on vacation, waiting for dinner, and looking at my baby boy. I just felt like I was watching something REAL wrong, if ya catch my drift. My wife had no idea what I was watching and put my son on my lap. I covered his eyes and turned off the movie as quick as I could!

[–] El_Lep 16 years ago

just out of curiosity, how come Guinea Pig was at your wifes grandparents?!
I see what you mean, your surrounding are a big part of the films mood, as sick as it sounds, me and my friends like to good film fest, get a bit drunk and stick on Guinea Pig, it's a lot more easy to watch when you are laughing your ass off!

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[–] jayt_26 16 years ago

hehe; I was in a bad mood but your post made me laugh. Thanks, btw. I had my laptop with me and was on a site that had it listed. Out of curiousity I put it on.

I can just imagine her grandparents watching it. lol.

[–] trymyproduct11 15 years ago

This one, Mermaid in a Manhole, is really really gross and really really funny. I'm surprised not many others have sounded off on how funny this one is, but trust me, the humor's there.

[–] odddnightmare 13 years ago

and youll never look at spaghetti bolognaise the same way ever again lol

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[–] lewisherschell 12 years ago

I can sympathise entirely. The first time I watched this and 'Flower of Flesh and Blood' was in the mid-1990s. I acquired a VHS bootleg tape of the Japanese LaserDisc release of Dario Argento's TENEBRE, and on the end of the tape, after the main feature, someone had recorded both 'Mermaid in a Manhole' and 'Flower of Flesh and Blood'.

At first, I thought 'Flower...' - which, remember, I saw on a ninth or tenth generation VHS boot - was some kind of genuine snuff movie, but then I remembered the Charlie Sheen story (IIRC this was around the time that the film was under investigation by the FBI, but most horror fans knew it was a 'fake'). However, 'Mermaid...' tipped me over the edge. It was so unrelenting; I could tell it was meant to be blackly comic, but I found it nauseating. I didn't watch either movie the whole way through and haven't seen them since, although I think I'm a little more jaded with regards Japanese extreme cinema now (ALL NIGHT LONG 2 probably tops the GUINEA PIG films in terms of extreme and upsetting content, imo).

It's easy to forget how, in the days before the Internet, it was easy to stumble across a movie like this and not fully know what you were letting yourself in for. Which was kind of nice in a way.

'What does it matter what you say about people?'
Touch of Evil (Orson Welles, 1958).

[–] Mathias001 9 years ago

There is one thing I don't get about Japanese films like this one. OTT gore is fine to show but God forbid you see the pubic region. I wonder where their priorities lie? There was another movie I saw (the title eludes me ATM) where this nude woman is being tortured on a table and the guy proceeds to saw her arm off. That is shown in full detail but her pubic area is covered with that ever present mosaic. Really? Really? Dismemberment is fine but genitals are not?

I even saw a clip from a Japanese show years back (can't recall if it was one of those silly game shows or not) but this nude woman walks out on stage and gets into a bathtub. Her breasts were quite visible but she took care to cover her vagina with a big wash cloth. On national TV.

I don't know...

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