This movie has ruined my life. - Ginî piggu 2: Chiniku no hana (1985) Discussion

[–] 17 years ago

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[–] tbay007 17 years ago

I don't know about that, thats a little harsh to say. I would go more along the lines that it might've been irresponsible to leave the child unattended. But i wouldn't necessarily say she was a bad parent. She thought it would take like a half hour to get home when in fact it took much longer than she expected.

Truthfully though, you can't blame your divorice or how disturbed your kid is from a film. That would be like saying "Kids don't kill people, video games kill people" because supposidly there is a LOT of blame on violent games these days that "corrupt" our youth.

Don't blame the movie, you should've just taken the kid with you because truthfully traffic and lines in grocery stores are unpredictable. And a divorice will only worsen the situation with the kid. But who am i to judge on her situation.

Don't blame the movies, just blame traffic and the store lines or whatever kept you from being home faster than what you expected.

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[–] JP_Walker00 17 years ago

You can't possibly be serious with this topic.

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[–] sun_scryer 16 years ago

I agree with you. There's no reason for the OP to make up a b.s. story involving a bad mother blaming their husband and their husband's movie collection for their child's issues.

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[–] Meven_Stoffat 17 years ago

can't possibly describe how I feel right now. This movie has ruined my entire life.

C'mon, WTH? You can't be that serious.

It all began when my five year old son was watching tv. I needed to do some shopping before diner, and decided it was okay to let my little boy home alone for a few minutes.

Uh SPELLING, PLEASE! You can't even spell "dinner" so that's one clue you're making jokes.

So when I finally got home, I saw the most disturbing thing I've ever seen. I can not ever forget those images.

Seriously now, this film isn't THAT disturbing. It's hardcore gore, and it's supposed to be exadgerrated. If you want disturbing, watch VISITOR Q... That's the most disturbing movie I've ever seen.

I saw my five year old watching a video which shows a woman getting disemboweled. It's so graphic, and so incredibly disturbing. I can't imagine anyone watching this movie out of free will.

From the looks (and the sounds of it), you probably just read the plot summary.

Apparently my son took a film out of my husbands (who's a enormous fan of the horrorgenre) movie collection, because he liked the title (guinea pig).

Umm, how did your kid get into the collection? That's what I wanna know.

From then on it all went worse. My son has stopped talking to me and his father. He makes very violent and disturbing drawings. He mutilates himself with sharp objects. He has killed his pet, a rabbit.
We went to a child therapist, it didn't help a bit and only gave us high bills.

I just wanna know, How does a therapiast raise your bills? I think that if it were that serious, your kid would be in a mental asylum by now. This is just stupid!

I don't know what do anymore. My husband and I are in a divorce because of all the stress. The situation just keeps getting worse and worse.
So my advice to you is: Never watch this movie, and never let your children watch this movie. It'll destroy your life.

Umm, I have seen all the GP films, and the first four ones were great.

Forever in <3:
Guinea Pig Series
The SAW series
The OMEN films
BATTLE ROYALE

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[–] c_eielts 17 years ago

Well guess what, I am serious!!

- Uh SPELLING, PLEASE! You can't even spell "dinner" so that's one clue you're making jokes. -

Wow. You just spotted a typo! Congratulations.

...

There's no need to be so mean. English isn't my native language and I just want to give people advice about this film.

Why are you being so incredibly offensive? You didn't have to read my post and you didn't have to respond to every single alinea trying to make fun of me :(

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[–] Meven_Stoffat 17 years ago

I'm not trying to be offensive. Firstly, I know YOU think you're funny, because the beginning film clearly said "Showing or selling of this film to anyone under 15 should be forbidden, due to the graphic and violent images shown in this film." Secondly, Where was your husband? You don't just leave your little kid at home without anyone watching him.

The first two Guinea Pig movies are NOT cinema. There's no character development, and hardly plots. I liked them, but The first two both freaked the living crap outta me because The made me think that it could happen.

Forever in <3:
Guinea Pig Series
The SAW series
The OMEN films
BATTLE ROYALE

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[–] c_eielts 17 years ago

Calm down little fella

Why would you like a film "without any character development and hardly any plots"?

Do you get arroused by "hardcore gore"?

We love you anyhow :)

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[–] Meven_Stoffat 17 years ago

LOL I will admit I AM a gorehound... But if you truly want hardcore gore, watch AUGUST UNDERGROUND'S MORDUM, it's 10x gorier than this

Forever in <3:
Guinea Pig Series
The SAW series
The OMEN films
BATTLE ROYALE

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[–] Falconeer 17 years ago

Sorry to hear that your 5 year old was exposed to this adults only material. A 5 year old should not really be left alone in a house for any amount of time. Especially if you have this kind of crap lying around. My advice to you though, is to spend alot of time with your child, in front of the tv, watching movies that are intended for young children. Try to protect him from any and all images of violence from here on in. In time the horrifying images he saw should fade from his memory. Unfortunately it might have a permanent effect on the way he sees the world later in life. I certainly hope that you have removed these gore films from his reach. I wish you luck and hope your son will be ok!

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[–] c_eielts 17 years ago

:( All I want is a little attention. Don't be so harsh man.

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[–] IrishxXx10 17 years ago

if this SH*t isnt a joke......who the F%ck leaves a 5 year old child home alone for ANY ammount of time.

if this is a joke...wow creative, must have spent some time typing that up. Horror fans really know how to make a point (of showing others that they have no life, and take the time to think this stupid $hit up...

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[–] Meven_Stoffat 17 years ago

Exactly.

And another thing, This ISN'T Adults-Only material-- It dosen't have any porn in it. It might be a hardcore gore flick, but I have seen both this (as with the rest of the series) and DEAD ALIVE, and this movie is NOTHING for gore when you compare it to DEAD ALIVE. I am 16. It says that Nobody under 15 should see the film.

Forever in <3:
Guinea Pig Series
The SAW series
The OMEN films
BATTLE ROYALE

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[–] jeffoneonone 13 years ago

"This ISN'T Adults-Only material-- It dosen't have any porn in it."

Oh yeah -- because gruesome destruction of life, however simulated, is better than the completely natural act of sex. Let me guess - you're American?

This is just between you and me, smashed hat.

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[–] MaximumMadness 14 years ago

LOL I will admit I AM a gorehound... But if you truly want hardcore gore, watch AUGUST UNDERGROUND'S MORDUM, it's 10x gorier than this

Ugh... August Underground sucks! I heard it was supposed to be the most intense movie series of all time, so I watched Mordum...

I hate to make a bad pun... but it should have been called August Underground's Boredom. I have never been more bored in my life. The effects were crappy, the acting was awful, the film moved at a snail's paste. I'm sorry, but watching fat chicks puke on each other for 25 minutes isn't scary. It's annoying.

I was so massivly dissapointed by the movie. It was just... stupid.

Honestly, the first Saw movie had as much gore as August Underground's Boredom, and it was barely gorey at all. But hey, at least Saw has a plot, and is fun to watch.

"Give Me Immortality, Or Give Me Death"

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[–] morbidcorpse 17 years ago

i think the real reason your child is so *beep* up is that his mother cant find anything wrong with leaving a 5 year old kid alone in a house even for 15-30 minutes! you know, watching a graphic movie isn't really on the list of the kind of things that can go wrong while the kid is there by himself

here's some: he burns ya house down
he reaches up to a mantelplace or a table or something and pulls down something heavy, sharp or hot (if you've been stupid enough to leave something cooking as well) onto himself
what about this one: he pulls out the cutlery draw and disembowels himself. lol

its stupid to divorce your husband because he likes gore movies. do you drink alcohol at all? do you keep turpentine in your garage? bleach in your laundry? washing up liquid in the kitchen? lets say your kid started drinking your alcohol, or drinking your turpentines, or your bleach, or your washing up liquid, because he'd managed to get into wherever you always keep it... you would then consider it reasonable for your husband to divorce you, for the sole reason that you didnt think your kid could climb up to the liquor cabinet?

if you go to your kid's therapist, have yourself assessed by him, i'm sure he'll find that you are not capable of being responsible for a small child, and probably he'll be baffled that you haven't been picked up by the men-in-white earlier

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[–] OMERZEN 16 years ago

if English is not your native language, then it is probably not native langeu for your son
therefore, it is not possible to a child who does not know English to like the title " Guiena Pig ", does he?

this thread is a nice joke though...
RoFL!

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[–] dolemitesdick 14 years ago

Zing - got her/him there
what is frightening though is that some ppl though that this was a real topic so much so that they replyed (oh wait I just did also)

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[–] Hervorragender 12 years ago

many europeans from non-english countries have english lessons since their first grades, though :-/

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[–] lugosi-11 17 years ago

You can't possibly be serious in your deconstruction of the topic of this thread:

"Seriously now, this film isn't THAT disturbing. It's hardcore gore, and it's supposed to be exadgerrated. If you want disturbing, watch VISITOR Q... That's the most disturbing movie I've ever seen. "

Exadgerrated??? WTF?!?!

By the same logic, you, sir (madam?), must be full of fecal matter...

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[–] Tantalus2001 17 years ago

Damien_Freaking_Thorn should restrict concern to his/her/its own spelling problems, and not scold others (as quoted above): "Uh SPELLING, PLEASE! You can't even spell "dinner" so that's one clue you're making jokes."

Here are a few examples of DFT's illiteracy in this thread alone: exadgerrated therapiast thoguht were faste asskisser

As I read IMDB posts, I wonder what exactly the public schools are teaching our children; familiarity with basic grammar and spelling seems to have eluded most of the poor souls here struggling to "write".

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[–] texanengineer 17 years ago

Now THAT was a seriously disturbing film.

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[–] John_Acrob 15 years ago

For Christ's sake, read the OP's biography.

"My name is Mindy. I live in Holland. I have one dog and two cats. I spend my free time with my girlfriend and making up stories that give me the attention I want so desperately.

I have no hobbies really."

She's not serious about any of this. You gullable idiots.

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[–] zombieman1978 17 years ago

"I can't possibly describe how I feel right now. This movie has ruined my entire life.

It all began when my five year old son was watching tv. I needed to do some shopping before diner, and decided it was okay to let my little boy home alone for a few minutes.
I went to the grocery store, and got the stuff I needed. When I returned to my car, the accu was empty. It took me more than over an hour to get home. And all that time my son was alone.
So when I finally got home, I saw the most disturbing thing I've ever seen. I can not ever forget those images.
I saw my five year old watching a video which shows a woman getting disemboweled. It's so graphic, and so incredibly disturbing. I can't imagine anyone watching this movie out of free will.
Apparently my son took a film out of my husbands (who's a enormous fan of the horrorgenre) movie collection, because he liked the title (guinea pig).

From then on it all went worse. My son has stopped talking to me and his father. He makes very violent and disturbing drawings. He mutilates himself with sharp objects. He has killed his pet, a rabbit.
We went to a child therapist, it didn't help a bit and only gave us high bills.

I don't know what do anymore. My husband and I are in a divorce because of all the stress. The situation just keeps getting worse and worse.
So my advice to you is: Never watch this movie, and never let your children watch this movie. It'll destroy your life.. "
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I'm sorry to hear of that, and you can be sure that you and your family are in my prayers, as that is something that a young child should never have to endure. With that being said, I must insist that it is not the film's fault, but the fault of the circumstasnces. He should not have been left alone with such material in easy reach, but you shouldn't beat yourself up over it either. Not a day goes by that I hear that violence in the media is the cause for the corruption of youth. That may be true, if you're young enough. I am 17, and while the film shocked and repulsed me, it did not make me want to inflict harm on others. However, if it is seen by someone at an age as impressionable as 5, you can't not expect something to happen. It should not be viewed by children, period. I'm not trying to sound rude, so please forgive me if I do, but I don't think that violent films should be blamed for violent behaviour. Our society is too quick to blame the media for their own mistakes, and that's not fair. Once again, I'm sorry about your son and I honestly wish you the best of luck through this terrible ordeal.

"Hail to the king baby."

My Movies http://us.imdb.com/mymovies/list?l=15840103

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[–] bond_girl_sisters 17 years ago

um, I'm just wondering....how did your five-year old know how to work the DVD player if he was home alone? My older sister can't even work one, let alone a five-year old...and she's 26!!!!! If your story is true, my sympathies, but it sounds like this kid was a little messed up before.

Man, I think that midget stripper gave me herpes!

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[–] openstorage 17 years ago

Umm, it's a joke! c_eielts said a few posts above, all they want is some attention, and their getting it alright, and reavealing people to be stupidly gullable in the process! My opinion of c_eielts has risen because of this :D

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[–] c_eielts 17 years ago

Yeah, I guess people like to believe it :) Because my made-up story is so Oprah-worthy!! :D

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[–] KYJell-o 17 years ago

High-five. =p

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[–] openstorage 17 years ago

lol. Nice one ;)

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[–] michaelredgreen 17 years ago

like i said, i am young gore fan, but i believe that young children, like from 2-9 should not be allowed to be corrupted until they know exaclty whats going on and matured enough, or else *beep* like this happens!

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[–] c_eielts 17 years ago

You're so right. My poor 5 year old :(

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[–] Meven_Stoffat 17 years ago

I thoguht you were joking.

Forever in <3:
Guinea Pig Series
The SAW series
The OMEN films
BATTLE ROYALE

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[–] c_eielts 17 years ago

I am. But not for the people who still believe me.

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[–] theinvisiblehands 17 years ago

whether or not you were joking wasn't really any of my concern, as anyone who leaves a five year old unattended for any given amount of time deserves whatever repercussions such irresponsibility brings about. but maybe i'm just a sicko like that.

i did, however, find it amusing that mr. Damien Freaking Thorn felt it necessary to chastise the initial poster on his/her spelling, then proceeded to quip: "It's hardcore gore, and it's supposed to be exadgerrated."

"exadgerrated?" ha! tell me you did that on purpose to be ironic. please.

on a related note, one time when i was about six or so, my sister was babysitting me and fell asleep on the sofa on top of the remote. being six and somewhat lacking in common sense, i sat in front of the television and wept for two full hours while "Friday the 13th part 2" was on. But, of course, the only bad thing that came of that was my sister being grounded for a week...

...and an overwhelming urge to sleep with my dead mother.

De profundis clamo ad te domine.

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[–] openstorage 17 years ago

NO! It's all true, I witnessed it. The kid is a blubbering mess :( c_eielts was kidding about kidding, the kid is really traumatised! He tried to gouge one of his own eyeballs out in frustration the oher day, so c_eielts told me!

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[–] Meven_Stoffat 17 years ago

Sure...

Hey, Now that were on the same topic, I found my 76 year old grandpa watching this. He makes very violent drawings and recites the samurai's lines.

Forever in <3:
Guinea Pig Series
The SAW series
The OMEN films
BATTLE ROYALE

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[–] warstrikesback 17 years ago

I think we're being fooled right here.

Hey, my grandpa watched it a couple of days ago and commited suicide, so: don't let your grandparents watch this movie! Condolences are welcome.

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[–] Meven_Stoffat 17 years ago

Um hello, it's called "Sarcasm".

Forever in <3:
Guinea Pig Series
The SAW series
The OMEN films
BATTLE ROYALE

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[–] warstrikesback 17 years ago

Oh, I didn't mean you. I didn't see that you were already making this "grandpa" - joke (we had the same idea).

I was refering to the first thread from c_eielts.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

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[–] Meven_Stoffat 17 years ago

Oh... thanx lol.

Forever in <3:
Guinea Pig Series
The SAW series
The OMEN films
BATTLE ROYALE

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[–] c_eielts 17 years ago

O no openstorage! Why did you tell them this! I thought I told you this sub rosa!
But yes, openstorage is right, my kid is still very very sick :( Mail me if you want to donate money. [email protected]

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[–] c_eielts 17 years ago

You make me blush jutsi_fai_tak

Well, my husband and I are already in a divorce! So I think we could start a hot steamy relationship!

But promise me one thing, don't be a fervent horrorfan! My son and I can not go through this once more.

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[–] jacobtyler5988 17 years ago

I grew up on R-rated movies. It desensitized me yes, but it also made me a hell of a lot more down to earth then any of my peers when I was younger. Stop being so stupid, this movie is simply part of reality.

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[–] openstorage 17 years ago

You don't seem very down to earth to me! You still don't seem to have clicked that this post is just a wind up! :D

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[–] c_eielts 17 years ago

Ooh yea! Let's kidnap a young woman and cut her into pieces while taping it!
Doesn't that sound romantic to you, my dear?

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[–] Meven_Stoffat 17 years ago

LOL!

Forever in <3:
Guinea Pig Series
The SAW series
The OMEN films
BATTLE ROYALE

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[–] c_eielts 17 years ago

I think I'm thinking what you're thinkin!

We're gonna dump the bodyparts in your hottub, then we're going to dance around it and party like it's 1969!

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[–] c_eielts 17 years ago

Spiffing! What a splendid idea! Such a turn on you are.
We can bring the bodyparts with us, and serve them with celery and onion!

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[–] Meven_Stoffat 17 years ago

HELL YES.

Forever in <3:
Guinea Pig Series
The SAW series
The OMEN films
BATTLE ROYALE

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[–] Meven_Stoffat 17 years ago

Kidnap me? Hell no, I'd escape faste than you can say "fugitive". Sorry .

To apologise, I'll cut my source of pleasure.

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[–] c_eielts 17 years ago

Now you're just exadgerating!

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[–] Meven_Stoffat 17 years ago

Sure, considering I'm a ninja...

To apologise, I'll cut my source of pleasure.

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[–] c_eielts 17 years ago

@ jacobtyler5988 :

Bravo for your down-to-earthness and extreme talent for the accurate observation of this thread!

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[–] jerseyd1 17 years ago

Y'all need to get a room!

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[–] GammaScorpii 17 years ago

Hey c_eielts, I was just curious but umm... wouldn't you call ""making up stories that give me the attention I want so desperately"" a hobbie of yours?
lol

I'll keep your name in mind, ya know, just in case I find you on another board making up some other bull crap story like this one. You ain't gonna fool me hehehe.

---
You know what always cheers me up? Laughing at other people's misfortune. Hahaha! - Bender

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[–] c_eielts 17 years ago

Not a hobby, it's a passion you know.

Remember my name!

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[–] Meven_Stoffat 17 years ago

We all love you anyhow

To apologise, I'll cut my source of pleasure.

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[–] sliverofflesh 17 years ago

come on guys, lets act like adults so we can all enjoy these movies and talk and have fun and maybe even learn a little about film. i have not seen the movie...im going to watch it in about 1 hour, but it makes me say when people act childish on here.

we should all be friends because we all love film. lets talk, learn, listen, and most of all have fun. what did you not like? what did you like? horror and sleze is pretty much all i do with my free time (with a one year old girl im pretty busy and i figure i have to see as must sleze as i can before my baby knows what it is and i have to lock it up like a porn collection!) and i want to get along with everyone and have fun.

i love and respect people who use words like intrigue and ideologies because they are good words to discribe how one felt about a film.

if you didnt like the film, tell us why in detail. that way we can all share our taste. i (for example) am huge fan of the cannibal epics of the 70's like cannibal holocaust and, well, tons of movies like it, so tell me what you think of this and how it compairs to what you do like and or dislike.

you know, horrorhounds and gorehounds and true film lovers around the globe are hard to come by. we need to stick together.

remember...some horror is better than no horror!

with lust,
sliver of flesh @ sbc global . net

email me, i LOVE to talk horror/gore/sleze/porn/kung-fu, or anything just odd. i would love to chat with ya!

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[–] c_eielts 17 years ago

@ Damien_Freaking_Thorn:

That's hot :)

@ silverofflesh:

Yeah you're so right. Let's all be friends!

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[–] JutsiFaiTak 17 years ago

-We love you anyhow-

Youre such an asskisser Damien_Freaking_Thorn

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[–] Meven_Stoffat 17 years ago

YOU'RE the asskisser here.

To apologise, I'll cut my source of pleasure.

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[–] c_eielts 17 years ago

Read. Topic.

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[–] JutsiFaiTak 17 years ago

Damien_Freaking_Thorn

I am probably one of the few people who has absolutely no reason at all to kiss c_eielts ass or what so ever..

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[–] Stryde22 17 years ago

hahahahaha....well arent you an idiot

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[–] JutsiFaiTak 17 years ago

Im really offended and shocked by this, hope youre happy now

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[–] Stryde22 17 years ago

very...actually.
need i point out to you that you claim it ruined your life...and that you cant explain how you feel righ NOW...and yet this traumatising event happened long ago.

sorry, i just dont believe a word of it.

tata

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[–] Stryde22 17 years ago

bahahah whoops u arent even the original poster XD

meh.

bbtw if anyone cared to check the posters profile the first sentence says:

"My name is Mindy. I live in Holland. I have one dog and two cats. I spend my free time with my girlfriend and making up stories that give me the attention I want so desperately. "

UH....DUUUUHHHHH!!!!!

bai!

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