The worst film ever made


This film gets my vote. If your are fighting for a political cause you are evil but if you are stealing works of art to get rich you are a hero.....

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The IRA, or more correctly PIRA are evil

"Daffyd, you stupid man! Think of all the cock and bumfun you could have had."

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who gives a f*** about the politics of the film (clearly confused , heavy handed and offensive) the writing and directing was absolutely terrible. how the hell did they ever get the project off the ground. i cannot believe i watched it all, it was complete sh1t3.

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You must have never watched Freddy Got Fingered huh?
Theres an hour and a half that I would love to get back .

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I hear that AstroZombie! That movie stole parts of my brain or something. What crap!

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Why are they evil? I doubt you'll ever look and see this to answer it but they've served a great purpose. For now they have turned into terrible criminals with drug running but regardless of that they were just fighting for their freedom for years.

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I think it's a good movie... I just bought it today :D

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You are absolutly RIGHT, NC. Kevin Spacey is a highly regarded actor here in the US, and even won an oscar, but THIS film was NEVER released to the theaters here. The real film this story was based on is called The General, and that is a great film, based on a true story. Rent it and you will see. This film has both sides using machine guns in the end and that cannot happen in Ireland. No one is allowed to even have a hand gun. Some crooks do, but the REAL General did not.

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im guessing you havent seen BATMAN AND ROBIN

honestly, if human excremant were made into film it would be that

nipples on the suits for christ sake....

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The fact is, this movie is not based on "the real film". This film was originally supposed to become a film about Cahill (The General), but was changed when they found out that there was already another such film being made. "The General" is probably the better movie, but I found this one quite entertaining.

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Look I hate this film for many reasons mentioned on other threads - but it is COMPLETELY FALSE to say the General and his gang did not have guns - they had plenty and used them as well - the police in Ireland do not carry guns in the same way as they do in other countries but there are armed response units and they do have sub-machine guns among other weapons at their disposal.

Dublin has a higher murder rate per capita than most US cities - most of these killings have been professional hits with guns.

And the Irish police have been involved in many shoot outs with armed gangs.

However, the film is still absolute SH!T

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Total BS to suggest that Dublin has a higher murder rate per capita than "most US cities." Do you have any information to back that up?

The murder rate in the US has fallen dramatically in recent years to 5.6 per 100,000 but even that would be equivalent to 224 murders (assuming 4M people in Ireland. In fact in 2006 there were 66 murder or manslaughters recorded by the CSO in Ireland.

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You mustn't get to Dublin that often mate.



There are thousands of cities in the US and I think I am actually correct in saying that the murder rate is higher in Dublin than in MOST US cities (see the word MOST). To find and print all the murder rates from every US city is a task I am not prepared to undetake - there are approximately 30000 incorporated cities in the United States - however i have a contact at the ESRI who carried out similar research and this is where I got my information from - the report was mentioned in the Irish Times:

"Dublin's homicide rate is increasing faster than other European capital cities, a new book by the ESRI will reveal."

They compared dublin with other european capitals and also many American cities (not all the 30000 but Dublin would have ranked well above 15000th place in the list if it was an American city and therefore has a higher rate than a majority of american cities or MOST)

The stats you give refer to the USA as a whole and of course the larger cities have larger murder rates - you would have been correct if you had said that i claimed Dublin had a higher murder rate than the USA.

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True. Complete and utter garbage. The part that bothered me the most was the fact that the IRA fella in the end *SPOILERS* got his face shot off. Interesting that none of the cops would see his face before they shot him, but they managed to hit it with every single round of ammo, oblitterating it. Oh, and I'm sure that there was no other way to ID him besides calling his wives in and having them do it. Maybe the cops shot off his fingerprints, as well.

Can you say Deus Ex Machina? I thought you could!

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Just another inconsistency we can all pick apart.

Is this bad writing, or is there another reason why Lynch would send Alec, possibly his only fully loyal henchman, with Stevie the slob on a suicide mission?

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I don't know about being the worst film ever made, but it certainly was a stinker.

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Lynch had a gun, Higgins didn't. Simple.

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Higgins didn't help him. he was pretty much forced to leave at gunpoint.

as opposed to pretty much everyone else here, I actually liked this movie. as previously stated, there are MANY films out there that are MUCH worse. this one was at least amusing.

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I.m Irish, and remember the events around The General as they were actually happening and being reported in the news. This film is utter rubbish. If you haven't seen it.... don't. The big mistake american film makers make, when making films about Ireland, with rubbish attempts to portray the Irish, is allowing actual Irish people to see them.... but if you're Irish or not, save the time this movie will take out of your life for ytour death bed, you'll be glad of it.

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I like this film.

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full stop. the worst film i have ever sat through....where do i start? *beep* editing, *beep* A.D.R., *beep* accents (two american,one english and a scottish actor...why not cast a talented irish actor? even the token oirish actor-Mr Colin *beep* Farrell sounded fake). This is a pathetic film that never deserved to be made (and i like Spacey-honestly!)

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Liam now youre looking for a row.
Ive noticed from your history you own "Who Dares Wins" a movie about the SAS, a state sponsored terrorist group who executed several Irish civilians in Gibraltar. (Dont forget the IRA is an unofficial group)
Anyway Ordinary Decent Criminal which I just watched is unforgivably awful.
My reasons are thus:
Martin CAHILL on whom the movie is based was a scumbag, pure and simple, no robin hood type, no champion of the people just a typical dublin knacker who actually skinned one of his gang who he suspected betrayed him and held a girl I used to know hostage because her roommate had a hotdog stand he wanted. dont celebrate him, bury him. In actual fact the greatest thing the IRA did ws to kill him as the last act before they disarmed
And the accents and acting were crap
The end

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Touch a nerve did I Reg? Must have to make you recite bile-ridden excerpts of IRA propaganda. Even if the SAS did kill civilians (which for the record I think is complete and utter guff), it would be nothing compared to amount those parasites have tallied over the years.

Anyone who openly supports a group such as the IRA deserves to be shot in public. Groups like the IRA are pure undiluted scum, and if you don't beleive me, ask their countless victims.

"I got one! I fackin' got one!"
"What do you want, a fackin' sweetie?! Keep shooting ya' *beep*

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Dead people dont usually answer questions.
and actually if you read over my mail i didnt recite any propaganda.
Just clarifying a couple of points.
And bored people dont usually touch any of my nerves.
And finally for the record I dont support anyone who kills anyone else be it state sponsored or freedom inspired.
I do however see why some people would be driven to it.
I await your balanced informed reply
Yours sincerely
Reg

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I would like to step into Liam and Reg's argument:

First of all - the people shot dead on Gibraltar were almost certainly unarmed but were almost certainly an active IRA unit.

You need to measure whether you think a goverment should act like a terrorist group (i.e. take out some terrorists before they strike) against whether they should stick to the law (try and arrest them and put them in front of a judge). Does the fact that these people were probably planning an atrocity justify their execution?

Someone made mention of mass unemployment - I presume you meant in Northern Ireland? This is not exactly true and in fact the economy there is currently booming - some call it a 'peace dividend'. The UK economy has not been dragged down - it is booming to the extent that foreign labour has been imported en masse to support it.

The IRA have been responsible for many deaths and many innocent victims - but then again the British army are far from angels as Irish history shows.

The 'General' was a rather distasteful character - and I find it personally disgusting that he is anyway glorified. However, I would prefer if he was now rotting in jail rather than being executed by an illegal terrorist group.

I think the one thing we can all agree on id that this film is utter shi*e.

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Zebar (if that is indeed your real name!!)
Thanks for joining in and makng the most important point , that this film is utter sh8.
I am in no way an IRA supporter but random comments like anyone who supports the IRA should be taken out and shot really boil my blood, I know I should know better but .....

It does upset me that they seem to be the only initials anyone who thinks about the North mentions. People seem to ignore the unionist killers who have committed some truly heinous acts of violence on catholics, but never seem to get the coverage the RA gets.

Thankfully it all seem so be passing into history

Reg

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UVF, IRA? Same *beep* different name.

All this 'freedom fighter' guff equally makes my bloody boil. Neither side as far as I can see fought for any such thing, merely feeding off the anarchy they create and communities they destroy.

And for the record, my father was a Catholic who grew up in Ulster and I am a Catholic by baptism, and such is my hate for these TERRORISTS that I wish each and every one of them dead. I don't much like Sinn Fenn either, but at least they are going about it constructively and not trying to kill anyone. (not anymore anyway...)

As for this film, I think the use of American and British actors, over native Irish ones ruined what could have been a half decent film, certainly a change from the norm of glitzy Americana, and mis-directed National Lottery funded 'comedies'. This is the second time I have seen this film though and I would watch it again. The comedic value of the accents and Irish wit have their moments...

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What about the comedy value of having a violent criminal as a hero?

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You do realise that the IRA and the Provisional IRA are two different organisations?

One liberated the south and the other brought attention to civil rights injustices in the north. Your statements smack of typical ignorance and double standards.

RE: those shot in Gibraltar. They could easily have arrested them, at the time the policy was to kill if possible to send a message. This is a terrorist tactic, note the words tactic since that is exactly what terrorism is.

Also, they were only called terrorists when the British government realised the PIRA were gaining more international support, so in an attempt to change that they encouraged the media to call them terrorists, criminalising their actions etc.

It's alot more complicated than that but there it is.

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I presume you are referring to the Provisional IRA when you mention they brought attention to civil rights injustices? That may well be true although many peace loving activists did a hell of alot more to raise this issue than the provos. The provos did a hell of a lot of other things too that took civil rights away from people - the civil right to life for one.

If you don't theink Enniskillen was a terrorist act then you don't understand terrorism. The Gibraltar killings were state-sponsored terrorism.

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"american film makers"?? The director is from Dublin and the writer from Limerick, hardly Americans, wouldn't you say? You want to bltch and moan about this movie, blame the Irishmen that made it and keep your anti-American feelings out of it.

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Definately the worst film I've ever seen - or tried seeing. There has only been two movies that I haven't finished watching all my life, and believe you me, I have watched A LOT of movies!

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Stacey, watch the General...thats the proper version.

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yep aviid this film at all costs get the general instead brendan gleeson is uncanny,on par with charlize theron in monster.

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Not really. If anything the film is just painfully mediocre.

PRIDE

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