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This Friday on 'TR 2070' ep 8 'First Wave'


Aired Friday 8:00 PM Mar 02, 1999 on Showtime

The CPB's computer network goes haywire after a young man posing as a computer service technician sets off a security alarm. (But when will they learn not to trust phony android/computer repair technicians?)

STARRING

Michael Easton
David Hume

Karl Pruner
Ian Farve

Michael Anthony Rawlins
Martin Ehrenthal

Judith Krant
Olan Chang

Chad Allen
Eddie J. Miller

Tara Rosling
Newt

Karen Glave
Helena Ehrenthal

Damon D'Oliveira
Detective Moralez

Alan C. Peterson
Deputy Chief Atkins

Judah Katz
Dr. William Melmoth

Alexandra Johnson
Tara Ehrenthal

Finlay McEwan
Young Eddie

Edward Jaunz
McAuley

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madp could you post the page you are using for the order in which we are watching. I just was going with whoever downloaded them to youtube but it is not always the same as what you have. The good news is I am ready for next week.
On with the show:

The good about this episode:
I could see that this would be realistic in the future. Groups fighting for the purity of the original DNA strain. That was a very interesting premise.
I like little things that to me make a show more realistic. Two that I saw this time was when Ehrenthal came out of the room and just did a little thumb pointing for someone to go into the room to watch the prisoner. No words, he just kept walking but a natural way it would be done and says so much more than a dialog. Shows the workings of the station and also his standing as a leader.
The other is when Ehrenthal gives his wife a little head shake and she returns it. They said so much more to each other by doing that then a whole dialog would have.

Other than that I will let those who liked this one discuss. To me it was a melodramatic mess. To top it off, way to make your daughter need therapy. Honey, you know that guy who had you kidnapped and a gun put to your head well come on over here and say good-bye.
Also, what parent would have her come over to the dying man. They have shown that he is mentally unstable what if his last act was to take a family with him for eternity.

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Sure thing. I believe this is the production and DVD order. Here it is:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_Recall_2070


1. "Machine Dreams" (part 1) January 5, 1999

2. "Machine Dreams" (part 2) January 12, 1999

3. "Self-Inflicted" February 2, 1999

4. "Allure" February 9, 1999

5. "Infiltration" February 16, 1999

6. "Nothing Like the Real Thing" January 19, 1999

7. "Rough Whimper of Insanity" February 23, 1999

8. "First Wave" March 2, 1999

9. "Baby Lottery" March 9, 1999

10. "Brain Fever" March 16, 1999

11. "Begotten Not Made" March 23, 1999

12. "Brightness Falls" March 30, 1999

13. "Burning Desire" April 6, 1999

14. "Astral Projections" April 13, 1999

15. "Paranoid" April 20, 1999

16. "Restitution" April 27, 1999

17. "Bones Beneath My Skin" May 4, 1999

18. "Assessment" May 11, 1999

19. "Eye Witness" May 18, 1999

20. "Personal Effects" May 25, 1999

21. "Virtual Justice" June 1, 1999

22. "Meet My Maker" June 8, 1999

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Something different this week. No corporate villain – although we are introduced to a group called ENSOM who want a world free from any android influence, feeling that relying on android labor weakens mankind. One of their members manages to infiltrate the CPB and infect their computers with a virus that starts to shut the entire place down. He is played by Chad Allen, whom I remember way back from OUR HOUSE when we was still barely a teenager. He managed to grow up and stay in the business – still active by the looks of his credits. He gave an impressive performance here, starting as a seemingly nervous tech who accidentally set off an alarm and then converting to his cool, confident persona once the AC shuts down from his command and his plan goes into effect.

But the story is not so much an “under siege” type story as a character study. Eddie Miller, the tech (or whatever his real name turned out to be) was part of a failed genetic experiment to have a generation of children with enhanced brain power – the first wave referenced in the title. Instead most of them died or became psychologically unstable. Eddie survived to adulthood but now has boosted his brainpower so much that his brain is slowly self-destructing.

The other standout in the cast in Michael Anthony Rawlins as Martin Ehrenthal. Early on he mentioned meeting his wife and daughter and I thought, well there’s something we didn’t know about him earlier. But not only do we end up meeting his wife Alana and his daughter Tara, but they turn out to be part of the story. It turns out they tried to adopt the young Eddie years earlier, but he was afraid of being abandoned eventually and started a fire instead – which eliminated him from adoption consideration. It was not the choice of Ehrenthals, who would have still been willing to take him in. The confrontation between Eddie and Martin becomes a poignant “what if” tale of how Eddie might have been different had he been raised by two loving parents like them. He eventually sacrifices his partner in crime to save his lost family. As to his partner, I’m not exactly sure who she was – a fellow “first waver”, or just a human who was against machines. With her fancy disassembling helmet, she almost seemed like an android herself, but that would make no sense to an anti-android group like they were.

Not a lot of interaction between Ian and David tonight, nor much human/android interplay – except for the interesting moment when Eddie concludes that Ian is an android. Dr. Chang had some sympathetic scenes as she laid out the plight of Eddie and the First Wavers. Olivia and Calley were no-shows. But that didn’t matter, because this was the Martin and Eddie show tonight and they provided solid, poignant drama. It’s good to see a supporting character have his day in the sun for a change. Cheers to the show for being willing to try something different. I’m giving this 9.5 floating digital skulls buried inside sinister software.

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I sort of cheated and read my fellow board members' reviews before considering what to write, bcause honestly, I think both have a point. On the one hand, it was melodramatic, and usually I'm not impressed about episodes about kinds and loving parents. On the other hand, it was a character-driven story, and one that gave Martin some chance for us to explore him as a rich character. And Chad Allen gave a great performance as the First Waver. I guess I'll need some days to consider, reflect and collect my thoughts.

Hey, didn't we just have our first bopttle episode? It seemed so. Which doesn't seem to make much sense, since all the stories usually take place in basically the same sets, which probably must have already been paid for anyway.

A few bits and pieces:

- So if the CPB computer network was on the fritz with a malignant virus, how come Olan's computers worked fine to perform her analysis?

- I'm not an expert in 2070 criminal law, but Detective Moralez's distinction between arrested and detqined seemed pretty iffy to me, and I wasn't convinced.

- Shooting the girl with Hume's favorite gun was such an overkill it was almost cartoonishly funny. I imagine him getting a small cannon and her exploding to bits. And the reaction of the Police Chief to actual blood, was also priceless. I guess he's only used to seeing stun guns used.

- Though ethnically diverse, society in 2070, judging by the Ehrenthals, the Humes and the Soodors, doesn't seem to encourage ethnically diverse couples.

- So, whatever happened to the computer virus anyway? The moment it stopped being important in the story, people just stopped caring about it and it simply went away. I guess the tech guys took care of it in another memorable moment in the Total Recall Dramatic Moments We Were Not Invited to Watch gallery.

- When Martin's daughter asked her father (or was it her mother?) "Who's that man?" or something, for a moment I thought he was going to answer, "He's your brother." That would've been strangely appropriate.

- We've already talked plenty about the outdated monitors, but the keyboard the First Waver was using (like some kind of touch pad) seemed to have an interesting concept. At least it wasn't an ordinary keyboard.

- I'll add along the way. As I said, I have to reflect.

For the time being, this ep. gets 7 uniformed police chiefs that dress like and seem as competent as fancy hotel doormen.

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So if the CPB computer network was on the fritz with a malignant virus, how come Olan's computers worked fine to perform her analysis?


I thought the same thing, didn't make any sense.

I'm not an expert in 2070 criminal law, but Detective Moralez's distinction between arrested and detqined seemed pretty iffy to me, and I wasn't convinced.


Agree, didn't make any sense. "Am I under arrest"??? No. "Ok, I'll be going home", no you can't we have to detain you here and treat you like your under arrest.

Though ethnically diverse, society in 2070, judging by the Ehrenthals, the Humes and the Soodors, doesn't seem to encourage ethnically diverse couples.


Good point, couples in 2010 were more ethnically diverse.

Was the point that he was white and the couple was black supposed to be shocking? I didn't get it, maybe it was a bigger deal in 1999.

So, whatever happened to the computer virus anyway? The moment it stopped being important in the story, people just stopped caring about it and it simply went away. I guess the tech guys took care of it in another memorable moment in the Total Recall Dramatic Moments We Were Not Invited to Watch gallery.


Agreed, it's like the whole episode just did an odd left turn about foster care and dropped the whole plot device of the deadly computer virus. And then they never resolved the issue. It's such a cop out, It's like, "I have something really bad and you better do what I say or you'll all be dead……wait Martin's wife is here…never mind, let me talk about the poor state of foster care in 2070."

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Madp
I sort of cheated and read my fellow board members' reviews


As the new kid on the block I have a question about this. If someone has posted before me I will read their post and then write my comments and respond to some of their comments. I saw this group as an interacting discussion group but it seems more of a review group. So my question is should I not be doing this? Have you all been seeing that as crossing a line? If so I apologize.
I personally say everybody read my post and tell me what you agree or disagree with and let’s discuss.

(I also have questions about nominations but I will wait till later for those)

Maybe one of you old timers could do an FAQ list for when new people come in.

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by lorkris » If someone has posted before me I will read their post and then write my comments and respond to some of their comments. I saw this group as an interacting discussion group but it seems more of a review group. So my question is should I not be doing this? Have you all been seeing that as crossing a line? If so I apologize.
Don't worry. You have nothing to apologize for. I was just using a figure of speech. You may do as you pleasse. I just advise you try writing something for every episode, and, if you find anything you'd like to add about other people's comments, it'll be great if you can do that. The more interaction the better.

I was more referring to the idea that when I write, I try giving my unfiltered opinion first, with the things that called my attention from the episode, not other people's comments, than I like to refer to the comments. But that's a personal choice. This time, however, I had mixed feelings, and felt I had to check other points of view first.

I was like this...

by lorkris » To me it was a melodramatic mess.

I can totally relate to that. I would much rather know about the First Wave kids from a science fiction perspective than a soapish one.

by brimfin » But the story is not so much an “under siege” type story as a character study.

Olivia and Calley were no-shows. But that didn’t matter, because this was the Martin and Eddie show tonight and they provided solid, poignant drama. It’s good to see a supporting character have his day in the sun for a change. Cheers to the show for being willing to try something different.

Well, you do have a a point there... Come to think of it, that was better than I had realized...

Basically, at first I didn't like the episode very much, though I felt I should've liked it. On the other hand, it went quickly in spite of lack of physical action, and I just didn't care about the time counter.

by lorkris » To top it off, way to make your daughter need therapy. Honey, you know that guy who had you kidnapped and a gun put to your head well come on over here and say good-bye.
Also, what parent would have her come over to the dying man. They have shown that he is mentally unstable what if his last act was to take a family with him for eternity.

I believe the scene, put out of context, would indicate that. On ther other hand, it showed the culmination of a process that lead to Eddie and Martin earning each other's trust, and it made sense in the story, as perhaps Martin saw his good intentions in Eddie's eyes, or something. As for traumatizing the girl, maybe Martin thought that would have been the last chance Tara had to know her "brother," and in fact it was her last chance, since he died right there. Martin doesn't seem to be the kind of parent who hides his child from the truth, so she can be prepared for life. Or I'm reading too much into it.

I like little things that to me make a show more realistic. Two that I saw this time was when Ehrenthal came out of the room and just did a little thumb pointing for someone to go into the room to watch the prisoner. No words,

Nice catch about all these non-verbal moments. I hadn't paid attention to that, but you're right.

by lorkris » (I also have questions about nominations but I will wait till later for those)

Maybe one of you old timers could do an FAQ list for when new people come in.

Good idea. I'll "fax" you one as soon as I have something. It's just that not everybody likes to read guidelines that will make things even slightly more complicated, and sometimes I have a hard time getting people even to provide links for the shows nominated.

But that's very helpful. I remember once there was some nominated show referred to as "Outlaw" or something, and then it turned out the name actually was "The Outlaws" (or something) and there were two or three shows by that name... So, a direct link solves that kind of problem.

I'll provide full guidelines in due time, but if you can't wait feel free to ask anything you want.

Well, I think that's about it right now...

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As the new kid on the block I have a question about this. If someone has posted before me I will read their post and then write my comments and respond to some of their comments. I saw this group as an interacting discussion group but it seems more of a review group. So my question is should I not be doing this? Have you all been seeing that as crossing a line? If so I apologize.
I personally say everybody read my post and tell me what you agree or disagree with and let’s discuss.



It's actually both an interacting discussion group and a review group but things kind of progress organically. There maybe a lot of interacting on certain episodes and not others. There maybe more interacting on certain series and not others. I remember there was a lot of interacting on both Prisoner series because they were so bizarre and both fueled a lot of questions. And the second Prisoner series had a widely differing range of appreciation. Two members loved it and two members hated it so that fueled a lot of comments. This series seems more straight forward as a futuristic cop drama. This series also seems to have a general consensus of consistently positive ratings of 6-9 so that may reduce the amount of comments.

I think the older shows from the 1960's-1980's increases comments because people include their personal remembrances of watching the show originally. This show is relatively new and some people have never seen it.

Sometimes someone who is not in the group per se and is just a fan of the particular series might not review an episode but leave comments. There was a fellow from Massachusetts who was a fan of the Planet of the Apes series and just added some comments and remembrances during that run through.

We also live in different countries and different time zones and different seasons so that might add to the lack of interacting. I'm on the east coast of the U.S. while Michael Stevenson is in England and madp is in Brazil. I think brimfin is in the mid-west of the U.S so we're all on different schedules and different preferences. I was dealing with 95 degree weather and summer while madp was in the middle of winter. Michael Stevenson had problems as far as youtube access for this series and I think he was commenting just using a mobile phone.

I had been doing my reviews rather late just because I've been busy on Fridays and Saturdays and I couldn't get around to watching the episode until Sunday or Monday. So as a result I wasn't getting many comments.

Feel free to comment on any of my posts positively or negatively, I always try to respond.

There's no set template for the reviews so feel free to use any format you want. One thing you can add is a rating after your review after each episode based on a 10 scale. This will give us an idea how you view the episode. You should go back and add a rating to each of your reviews because brinfin does an interesting tally at the end

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by JohnQ1127 » There's no set template for the reviews so feel free to use any format you want. One thing you can add is a rating after your review after each episode based on a 10 scale. This will give us an idea how you view the episode. You should go back and add a rating to each of your reviews because brinfin does an interesting tally at the end.

Oh, yes, yes. Playing with numbers is always fun. Grading the episodes and counting the points to choose a new show.

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This episode starts with a guy posing as a computer technician but is really a saboteur and he releases a horrible virus that shuts down the entire computer system in the CPB and shuts down the air conditioning among other things. Originally he just sets off an alarm and were not quite sure if he's innocent or a real hacker. Eventually Hume determines that he's indeed a real hacker and that he has plans to shut down the entire CPB. What's odd is that Hume basically says his not arrested yet they take him to this back room against his will and question him? Doesn't make much sense to me.

It ends up that this technician has some super human brain power and they fear that he's taken some kind of dangerous anabolic brain steroid that increases cognition. Olan takes a blood sample and it gives no indication that the tech has taken any kind of drug. One thing that makes absolutely no sense is that Olan is able to test the sample with a computer. How the heck does she have computer access if the tech shut down the whole system???

Anyway it ends up that he was part of a radical experiment to increase brain power in children called "The First Wave". It was sort of an anti-adroid group that wanted to invest in human brain functioning rather than invest in android research. Most of the children died or became unstable, the tech guy is still alive but his brain functioning is unstable and there's an implication that it will eventually kill him.

It seems like this episode is going to go into some interesting philosophical arguments about artificial intelligence and untaped human potential. Instead it makes an odd left turn and turns into a melodramatic foster care story with Martin and his wife as a couple who didn't adopt him. It's awfully convenient for the plot that Martin's wife and daughter who we have never seen, just happen to be at the CPB when the tech guy takes everybody hostage.

The tech guy basically has everybody hostage because the CPB will self destruct or something along those lines, he's aided by some Ensom people who are against the developments of androids.

In the end there's a confrontation and the good guys win.

Random Thoughts:

*There's no real tension in an episode where the cast is held hostage because you know they're coming back next week. Also there's no real tension about the CPB being destroyed because again everybody is coming back next week.

*The show has some really cool and imaginative sets, atmosphere, and special effects, but it's so formulaic. A: Something computer or android related happens. B: Hume and Farve are called in to investigate. C: They consult Olan about something. D: There's usually an android debate or problem. E: They track the culprit but are at odds with Martin in terms of procedure. E: There's a confrontation with the culprit. F: Good guys win. G: Some type of 2 minute Coda that will be forgotten in the next episode. There's no long term story arc with returning antagonists.

*I found this episode to be boring as most of the eipsode takes place in 2 rooms at the CPB.

*Farvre is barely featured in this one and he's the most interesting compelling character on the show.

*The whole melodramatic foster care story was such an odd plot turn.

* Did they ever resolve the whole computer virus thing??? It seemed like that plot point was dropped once they started the whole foster family thing.

I give it a 5 out of 10.

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This is a very sombre episode. I don't usually like these human interest stories,but this was quite gripping. Being used to slow moving British drama shows meant I was comfortable with the slow pace of it.
Good to see Ehrenthal having more to do ,this being made during the X Files era law chiefs are usually portrayed as mysterious,tough and bald, in homage to Mitch Pileggi's Skinner. Up to now Ehrenthal has just ticked the last of those boxes and probably still does, but the character was used as more than just a cipher.
Eddie ended up being a tragic sympathetic person who never asked to be a first waver though the Ensom group he got involved in is decidedly fascist. Remembering the pilot and the plot to enhance android memory we might see a finale as CPB is caught in the middle of a battle between Ensom and whoever is behind an android revolution.
On the subject of why older shows get more in depth reviews, I agree that growing up with these older shows is part of the reason but also simply there is more plot to get your teeth into in classic shows. From about the 1990's Sci fi on tv seemed to be obsessed with showing full character back story and other waffle not connected to plot.
Compare Star Trek classic with the newer versions ,one is plot...plot ....plot..plot.,and the other plot ...waffle ..plot ...waffle.plot. Todays writers only need to come up with 25 minutes of plot the other 20 they fill with meandering back story.
Not just Sci fi ,the original Hawaii five 0 (zero) and the boring Hawaii five o (letter o) illustrate perfectly my point.
8/10.

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Sorry it has taken me this long to respond. I have just gone through a forty-eight plus hour power outage. I have thrown my food out from the refrigerator and freezer and am ready to roll.
Thank you all for the information. I find this group and its development interesting.
I did not know that the rating system was used later. I am embarrassed to confess how hard this is going to be for me. I tend not to be a cut and dried kind of person (to the point of driving people crazy. I am always saying “on the other hand”) so it will probably take me longer to give an episode a rating then it will for me to write my review. Maybe this will help me be more decisive.
Brimfin I really could not go back and rate the past episodes. I just would not remember them well enough to do so. I could start now with the next episode.

JohnQ1127
Was the point that he was white and the couple was black supposed to be shocking? I didn't get it, maybe it was a bigger deal in 1999.


I did not see them make any reference to that being a problem or out of the ordinary. They said the reason they pulled the placement was to do with a fire. I felt like something got edited out but we were to assume the boy had something to do with a fire and that was why they decided they could not place him in a home.

I don’t think they were making a show about the bad foster care of 2070 (although it may also be bad) but that these First Wave children could not be placed because of their anger problems. Some died young and of those remaining most were institutionalized permanently. He was one of the First Wave children who could be placed in a home but most did not want to take on his problems. This was his last chance.
It was interesting that after twelve they could not even be considered for placement.

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I don’t think they were making a show about the bad foster care of 2070 (although it may also be bad) but that these First Wave children could not be placed because of their anger problems.


I was just making a joke about 2070 foster care.

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by JohnQ1127 » I was just making a joke about 2070 foster care.

In a place controlled by corporations where immigrants have to work as rickshaw pullers or pedicab drivers, I imagine social services are not a top priority of the government.

PS. - But then, it's not like we've seen any kids on the show so far, so I guess foster care is not much of a deal anyway. Unless one of these episodes is about Farve telling some random kids some bedtime story.

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In a place controlled by corporations where immigrants have to work as rickshaw pullers or pedicab drivers, I imagine social services are not a top priority of the government.


Yeah, that's interesting. They don't really get into the inner workings of the society in this show which is a bit odd for a show set in the future. Usually these shows try to highlight what's different about this future society.

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I'm beginning to think that this series is not supposed to be an attempt to depict a realistic future society. It's too stylized for that.
The design is a vehicle used to tell the stories that the writers want to tell.
A dark labyrinthine city for dark labyrinthine plots.

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I'm beginning to think that this series is not supposed to be an attempt to depict a realistic future society. It's too stylized for that.
The design is a vehicle used to tell the stories that the writers want to tell.
A dark labyrinthine city for dark labyrinthine plots




Thats a good point, it's more about style and cop drama.



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