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What the hell is that 'Great Performances' title?


I've been searching for ""Jesus Christ Superstar" and I haven't found 2000 version (with Glenn Carter), now I see its title has changed to an episode of "Great Performances" series! What's that?

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I was wondering the same but about "A Dangerous Man". I couldn't find it when I searched for it and when I looked on Fiennes' resume it wasn't listed. Finally found it through Wiki.










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I had the same problem finding A Dangerous Man as well as Monsignor Quixote. They have both been incorrectly listed as documentaries and the actors' credits are listed under the "Self" section.

I looked into submitting a correction to IMDB but the process was just too complicated to be bothered with.

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You can post a message on the 'Help' board letting a mod know it's wrong, but yeah, I hear ya, the process is LONG. One time I submitted everything for a show only to be told that I wasted my time because IMDB had it listed under something else. Screw that. Isn't that why they pay people to work on this site? I'm not bothering ever again.












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The Great Performances series is shown on PBS and is usually concerts or theatrical performances that have been filmed. When you see a play, or musical, or singer perform during primetime on public broadcasting, it's usually under the Great Performances title.

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That may be true of some of the broadcasts but A Dangerous Man and Monsignor Quixote are not filmed stage plays. They are full-blown movies. I first saw MQ on Australian TV in the 1980s. Both were available on VHS and then DVD, although MQ is only available from the UK and coded as Region 2.

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I haven't checked any other titles but I see that IMDB has just corrected their entries on Monsignor Quixote and A Dangerous Man. Both movies are now listed under the actors' "acting" credits and no longer under "self".

My faith in IMDB is restored!

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What's confusing is that this was ORIGINALLY listed on IMDb as "Tosca: In the Times and Places of Tosca". I wrote a review of it under that title, then a few years later, when I looked over my list of reviews, I couldn't find it anymore. The title had been changed to the present "Great Performances" one, and my review was now listed under that title. I only found it again by doing a search under the singers' names.

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Maybe, but it's a UK production (and first shown on TV there) and so the "Great Performances" banner, as used for its PBS showing later on, has no meaning at all.

It'd be like if Outer Mongolia showed an episode of "Star Trek" under the banner of "TV's Greatest Hits" - that wouldn't become part of "Star Trek's" official title.

Just makes IMDB look Americo-centric.

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I had a similar problem finding this movie. I only came upon it when I went to Alexander Siddig's trivia section, it's not listed on his filmography.



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Same thing for me. I tried looking this up twelve different ways on IMDb and couldn't find it. I eventually got it through a link on Wikipedia.

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I've sent the following e-mail to IMDb:

I tried searching for The Lost Language of Cranes, which used to have its own entry. I couldn't find it via multiple title searches. Eventually, I followed a link back from Wikipedia. It appears, based on this message board, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0159876/board/nest/178084270 that this problem affects other films which used to be searchable and have now just become blind items within Great Performances. This is particularly problematic since Great Performances has been running for 38 seasons.

Although produced by the BBC, The Lost Language of Cranes is an 87 minute film which has been shown at film festivals and available on tape/DVD for almost two decades. Treating it like an episode of I Love Lucy seems misguided.

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This was the substance of IMDb's response:

Suggestions For Improving Your Results

If you are searching for a particular episode of a TV Series, you should search for the title of the TV series, not the episode. Or you can use the following link to search all Episode Titles.

* Episode Title Search for "The Lost Language of Cranes".

When you selection this function, the title you're referring to will appear in the results.


And I replied with this:

The problem is that, in some of these cases where the film has been widely distributed, nobody could reasonably be expected to know that it's a television episode. IMDb is supposed to be the definitive database for films. It's a failure if IMDb users have to go to Wikipedia because of a rigid classification system. Great Performances, at least, should be cross-referenced.

From Wikipedia: "Although made for television, the film was initially screened at the London Film Festival in November 1991 and was first screened on British television (BBC Two) in February 1992." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_Language_of_Cranes_%28film%29

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Great Performances has been on the air since 1970. Amazon.com has 400 pages
of their presentations and productions. I looked up "The Lost Language of Cranes" on IMDB and it is listed 3 times - all identical, same cast, same everything - once as a TV movie, the second time as a Great Performances presentation and the third time as a Screen Two presentation. Once a made-for-tv movie has aired, it's up for sale. GP only buys the best. You can find "The Lost Language of Cranes" on Amazon just by typing in the title.
There is one DVD available and two VHS tapes. It is also available on Netflix on DVD only - no streaming.

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Did you ever get a response? Because it's still listed as part of Great Performances.

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Oh, yeah:

Thank you for your reply.

Please rest assured that we've forwarded your comments to our staff in charge of the episode listings for their consideration.

The IMDb is constantly being updated and improved, and we welcome all comments and suggestions aimed at improving its features, flexibility and ease of use.

We appreciate that you took the time to share your thoughts with us. Though we cannot make any promises as to if or when we'll actually be able to implement them, please rest assured that we do consider all feedback from users when making changes to the site.

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I have been searching for the DVD of the London production of CATS which is listed under "Great Performances," but only found it by looking for the one listed soundtrack performance for Sir John Mills, who portrays "Gus, the theatre cat." I searched under the name "Cats," "CATS," "Cats, 1998" and "Cats, Adelphi Theatre," and "Cats, The Musical," the title it is sold under on Amazon.com. This is ridiculous. The PBS "Great Performances" is not the title of the actual musical production and should be corrected. It is very misleading.

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It's appalling that some IDIOT has listed this as an "episode" of an American series. "The Lost Language of Cranes" is a British TV movie and should be listed SOLELY by its own title. Although it may have been shown in the US under the Great Performances umbrella, it is not an episode of it or anything else.

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After messaging IMDB's help desk and explaining that this is a British TV movie and not an "episode" of Great Performances, they told me to create another page for it, which I have done. Let's all make sure the new page is used more than the Great Performances one. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1975984/combined

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Looks like you got a better response than I did. Cheers!

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"Great Performances" is what is linked to the actual title if PBS has included it in the series that they call "Great Performances". Kind of like "Masterpiece Theatre" is actually different performances, mini-series, etc..., and will usually contain that as part of their title.

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The rare & fantastic Louis Jourdan "Dracula" is a BBC production, NOT PBS! The same for "Jesus Christ Superstar" which was made at Pinewood, Bucks, UK.

Just who ARE these IDIOTS!!!

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"Great Performances" is what is linked to the actual title if PBS has included it in the series that they call "Great Performances". Kind of like "Masterpiece Theatre" is actually different performances, mini-series, etc..., and will usually contain that as part of their title.

Exactly what it says above. PBS shows BBC productions, plays, concerts, operas, and films, all properly credited. PBS is not claiming to have produced these.

Funding from organizations and the public goes to the "Great Performances" and "Masterpiece(Classic, Contemporary, Mystery)" titles, and then audiences are able to see a variety of programs during those time slots that normally would never be shown in the US. The "Great Performances" and "Masterpiece" titles then serve to categorize what types of programs are shown during those certain times.

It's no different from the Turner Classic Movie Channel. TCM broadcasts films that are either unavailable to the public or would never be shown on network TV. They have their own line of DVDs, but they don't claim to have produced all the films they sell as TCM releases. They are merely the tool that enables audiences to see the films.

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Yes but it shouldn't have the "Great Performances" in the title on IMDB, it should just be what the original title by the producers made it. The Lost Language of Cranes was never called "Great Performances", that's just an American strand it was shown in on an American network. But it's not an American film.

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Also, the title is very misleading, since this version of the play could be the ungreatest performance ever.

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