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Do Feminists like this show?


I've been curious about this for a while now


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I don't believe feminist would like this show.I think initially it was supposed to appeal to all women but with them being independent career women and attempting to showcase women with sex lives. I suppose back when it was initially released it broke a lot of taboo ideas of women but in hindsight it is somewhat insulting. I think if the women were more like Miranda it would have been appealing to a feminists. But as time went on the show portrayed the the women as fashion obsessed,flighty women who need men to be happy and complete. The 2 films really went overboard with it to the point it felt nothing like the characters from the shows. I think the shows mistake was having the two polar opposite characters Samantha and Charlotte as they portrayed women at their worst.

Charlotte was portrayed as a entitled hypocritical airhead. She was shallow and often came across as a golddigger and a bad example for women. Samantha is probably the worse example for feminist and women in general.She was supposed to represent a woman who was comfortable about her sexuality, but she was not comfortable or. Independent. She was emotionally retarded and relied on sex as a barometer of self-worth.Men and women did not respect her and only saw her as a women who put out. As Carrie even mentioned a few times, she was enemy to women's progress. She was a cautionary example of what not to be. So, with all that said, no I would not think a feminist would like the show. If you do a search there are articles on the subject.

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I consider myself a feminist and I love this show. However, there are so many different ways to look at feminism and most people are probably not aware of the so-called feminist "waves", which the concept feminism has evolved from, over the last century.

The third wave feminism is what (at least that's what I think) the ones who have prejudices about feminism, is what the more "militants" feminists stand for, and personally that's nothing I identify myself with. I simply want equal pay for equal work, equal rights when it comes to, well everything; race, ethnicity – man or woman. Quite self-evident, one doesn't have to make it more difficult than that. But that is unfortunately not how the world looks like today, and especially not in developing countries.

I believe Sex and the City was quite a ground-breaking show, especially for being the US, when it came to women's rights to their sexuality, and above all the right to her own decisions. Whether or not it was about religion or anything else. But also about breaking taboos.

But just as diverse as society is, so were the characters reflected. A mighty rich stew, and a friendship through thick and thin. A single, independent and strong woman in Miranda, a sexually liberated businesswoman in Samantha and a conservative, rather prudish Charlotte. And Carrie, a little woozy and indecisive at times, but who reflected the city of New York in her writing, the fifth character, in a fascinating way.

But what I personally believe has made the series the cult series which it rightly is, was the human side that was depicted. Everyone has flaws and shortcomings, and I don't think there's anyone who cannot identify with one of the women, or of the various situations that aroused. That is the show's greatest asset, and I also believe that is what has made it – and still is – so popular and loved by so many.

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Of course, why wouldn't they?

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Maybe not all of them would but as a feminist myself, I love the show. There are certain episodes or moments or lines that can be a bit problematic (I hate the bisexual episode because I think it shows really bad views of them) or that make me feel a bit uncomfortable but over all it's fine and the show was a big step forward for women on TV so for that I think all feminists can appreciate it. It was the first mainstream show that had women openly talking about sex and masturbation and discussing things that you mostly only ever heard men talking about in movies. It also has four strong, three dimensional, well written (ignoring the second movie) female characters as the leads which is still quite a rare thing to come across.

The show is mainly about sex and relationships so naturally they do talk about men a lot but they have other conversations as well and they do discuss issues that are still prevalent and they discuss them in interesting ways that show various viewpoints i.e. the conversations about abortion in the episode where Miranda discovers she's pregnant and I watched the episode just the other day where Samantha first meets Richard and he's saying he probably won't hire her basically because she's a woman and the other businessmen probably wouldn't want to work with her and the four women have a whole conversation about how people call women 'emotional' as their excuse for not taking them seriously and to demean them and the entire conversation was on point.

So I think that although some parts of it could've been done better or maybe don't hold up as well to todays views (as views develop over time and have probably developed even since SATC was out), it was still a huge leap forward for women in TV.

The movie became a bit more shallow as the clothes became front and centre (fashion was always relevant in the series but it was never the main focus) and the second movie was just disgraceful (but I don't think that's just from a feminist viewpoint, I think that's just a general fact) but I still very much enjoy the first one and I can just pretend the second one doesn't exist.

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We live for it.

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These four women, approaching or already in middle age, are juvenile and shallow. All they care about is buying shoes and attracting a rich man. Feminists might find the show entertaining for the main characters' comically absurd and childish behavior, but no intelligent, self-respecting, grownup woman could possibly identify with any of them. They are an insult to women.

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Some may, some may not.

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