tarantino seems to have stolen a good part of lady snowblood to make kill bill.
also from a chang cheh movie called the boxer from shantung.
The real question is 'How much of your time do you spend slagging off Tarantino?'
I think you have an Infatuation
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How can you call it stealing, when QT is so open about it. He even uses the beautiful song "Shura No Hana" in KB and on the soundtrack - the song that IS Shurayukihime embodied.
Isn't it actually a crime (stealing/copyright infringement) you are accusing him for ? Isn't it a criminal offence to accuse someone of crimes in the US ?
Do you actually care about the film, selma, or more concerned with watching it so you can blast at QT some more? Yes, he took some elements, but put his own stamp on them. By having Meiko's song towards the end he is clearly pointing out these references and basically winking at anyone who picked up on them.
Since Kill Bill, this film, amongst others like Babycart, have got a lot more attention. Now how could QT have done a better homage than giving these films a new fanbase?
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Why people defend so much Tarantino????
Kill Bill is practically a rip off of this beautiful movie. He didn´t add anything interesting in Kill Bill except for his feet fetish. Kill Bill is waaaaay overrated and most people doesn´t have any idea about this movie.
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It's not a crime to accuse someone of copyright infringement even if they didn't do it. The court will cover legal fees for the copyright holder and will not even take it to court unless the original copyright was filed and maintained. I personally think that the homage paid to Lady Snowblood was on the border of stealing/bringing attention to. I work in the music industry, so I know how copyrights work in that context and assume it'd be similar with movies. With music if you sample it, it all depends on the intent rather than what you use. Revenge stories are generic enough but he used several direct scenes from Shurayukihime in Kill Bill, mainly all the Divas standing over her. The general arc of the story and chapter break down is also almost identical, which makes me feel kinda mixed. I really liked Kill Bill 1 + 2 when I first saw them but then after I watched a lot of the movies that he payed "homage" to I began to see how little he actually came up with and how much was taken from other movies.
Some of the other movies that he pays homage to are Samurai Fiction, 5 Fingers of Death, all the Pai Mei movies, Master of the Flying Guillotine and a bunch of others. Samurai Fiction is another one I worry about because it came out real recently and he basically took a scene from it. I'm sure the use of colors and silouettes have been used all the time, but in the context of samurai fighting? I dunno I'm kinda on the fence about Tarantino's movies and their originality and I want to see the movie that he supposedly ripped off for Resevoir Dogs. I just want to see what new ideas he brings to the table rather than what influences he pulls on to create something new and haven't felt that lately.
Tarantino uses scenes and characters (Daryl Hannah's costumes from Thriller for example), but I don't feel in a negative way. He will be the 1st person to openly pay homage to what movies he takes from, and be proud of what elements he used. He's a big "B" movie buff, and loves to bring attention to older obscure movies (alot of them exploitation). I don't see how this can be a negative thing and alot, if not all, directors do it (I don't hear alot of people yelling at Lucas for stealing themes from Kurosawa's Hidden Fortress). It's just people either love or hate someone when they're on top, and right now, Tarantino is on top.
And I'm sure if there are copywrite issues, the appropriate people are contacted for permission to use their material. Otherwise, I would guess the general public would hear about it, like when Vanilla Ice stole from Queen.
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if it wasn't for tarantino, MORE people wouldn't know about this movie.
shareIf i had'nt watched KB, i never would have BOUGHT the two Shurayukihime dvd's.
I don't think the copyright holders mind so much that their property suddenly gets a second wind, basicly for free.
Yeah that's true I've watched a lot of great old Kung Fu and Samurai movies because of Kill Bill, but something just doesn't sit right with me because he seems to just pay homage with every movie. I just don't feel like he's creating anything, just adapting and rearranging the elements he likes from other movies. I think he's good at it but it feels a lot like bad sampling to me, like P Diddy using that Police song "Every Breath You Take". I just wish he'd take how the ideas are expressed in a different way. I just watched "City on Fire" a couple weeks ago and again he blatantly ripped it off and that's not even as old a movie as "Shurayukihime". The time between "City on Fire" and "Resevoir Dogs" is a little more than the time between "Samurai Fiction" and "Kill Bill" which just makes me uncertain. How can you pay homage to something people don't know? If an actor says "Here's looking at you kid" or talks like John Wayne we'll know the reference, but a random pulp samurai movie? Obviously it's not just Tarantino who pays "Homage" but with him it seems the most blatant.
Oh and Vanilla Ice stole from David Bowie for "Ice Ice Baby", don't know if he ever used any Cream samples.
Vanilla Ice stole music from the song Under Pressure from Queen, featuring David Bowie. I don't know anything about Cream...
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This film is amazing for it's age. The only thing which peeved me while I watched this movie was the way the blood was so fake. However as soon as I saw the year it released it all made sense. I do like Kill Bill (1 not 2) but having seen this I now see the Kill Bill movies differently. He copied too much and now I just see the 2 KB movies as just a remake and nothing more.
Well, everyone, I'm new to this board and do not spend my time insulting QT.
So now can we please, please get back on track. I haven't seen Lady Snowblood and I would really like to know which elements they do share?
Anyone?
I have it in my queue right now, so I'll let you know after it comes and I watch it.
What's fuuny is I didn't hear of this series through anything QT related. I'm a long time fan of fanciful Samurai cinema such as Lone Wolf an Cub, Zatoichi, etc. Just never got around to seeing these. I also have the Hanzo the Razor series coming soon too.
"I have it in my queue right now, so I'll let you know after it comes and I watch it."
Thanks! I look foward to it.
What elements they share are Lucy Liu's character. Her character dresses the same way as the lead in Lady Snowblood, and the sword fight at the end of KB1 was similar to a swordfight in Snowblood.
shareHow about the bloody scenes? So much blood squirting everywhere in both movies...I love it!
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