I'm surprised this is even listed on IMDB...I thought perhaps nazi propaganda films wouldn't be part of the established film industry.
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Well, it was...
IMDB's supposed to list most films, whatever their politics.
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It's not "sci-fi", it's SF!
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Why should this not be on imdb? Imdb is a database, it is not promoting this movie.
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Every film that exists is listed in imdb.
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Quite a few minor ones aren't.
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The film was fuel to the fire that resulted in Poland being depopulated of Jewish people. All of the Jewish participants in the film were murdered in cold blood to advance a racist political objective. People are not rats no matter how different they may seem from you. Don't try to justify this sickening movie.
share1. So far as I am concerned, even Casablanca is propaganda although it is a masterpiece. This piece of cinematic bilge is so blatant that anyone not a Nazi must find it objectionable.
To cite Wikipedia,
"Propaganda is a form of communication that is aimed towards influencing the attitude of the community toward some cause or position by presenting only one side of an argument."
This is as one-sided as it gets. It is pure libel, blaming innocent people for the deeds of the worst in a group while denying the achievements of Jews.
2. As is usual even the language of Nazism is fraudulent. National Socialism is in no way socialist unless by socialism one means 'stealing from the Jews'. By that standard Bernie Madoff (who stole heavily from fellow Jews) is a socialist. Hitler sold off the public sector to the extent possible to his financial backers for a pittance as a reward for their support in the early 1930s.
Nazism implied the complete degradation of working people -- they could not change jobs without the consent of their employers, they could not strike, and if they fell short of quotas they could be sent to labor camps to be worked to exhaustion on starvation rations. Workplace safety practically disappeared as Nazi Germany had some of the highest rates of industrial accidents in the industrialized world.
Linguistic fraud is much of the 'flavor' of Nazism. It used "pacification" to mean the brutal suppression of conquered Poles. "Special treatment" meant murder. "Special handling" meant torture. "Protective custody" meant protection of the system from a troublemaker. Nazi "socialism" was exploitative plutocracy at its worst. In the end, "Final Solution of the Jewish Question", which on the surface suggests a benign choice between bureaucratic alternatives, became a cover for the elimination of all Jews.
Orwell caught this 'flavor' well. Words themselves lies are the worst lies of all, for one can simply negate a deliberate misstatement of fact with its contradiction and get truth.
3. I am proud to have voted twice for Barack Obama having a choice in both cases. Indeed I am proud to have been on his campaign. In no way do I see him especially socialist by American standards. If anything he has undone much of the "socialism by receivership" associated with George W. Bush. A sober liberal who rejects race as an indicator of inherent merit or worthlessness, he is the antithesis of a Nazi.
Linguistic fraud is much of the 'flavor' of Nazism.
You obviously have issues. At this point, it's just a film. Yeah, a propaganda film, but you're overthinking this. You have obvious insecurities about the association of the word "socialism" with Obama and liberalism. First off, maybe socialism, real socialism isn't such a bad thing. On the other hand, it has rarely been implemented in a way which is humane and fair.
I agree: Fascists calling themselves "socialist" is a contradiction. Likewise, I believe the leading party in China is the "Communist Party." Well, there have never been any truly communist industrial societies. Yes, language is use to manipulate people. Modern politics is perhaps focused on nothing more profoundly than manipulating the masses. In any case, I don't think voting for Obama is something I would be proud of. Down with the two-party system!!
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by MarcoPoloV » 3 days ago (Mon Jan 11 2016 04:24:26)
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Even the vilest flick deserves its appropriate place of honor... or in the case of this ... and I any comparison that I can make between it and feces is unduly derogatory - toward feces, that is.
People will eventually find it, and some will be interested in exposing its techniques of propaganda... and perhaps characteristics of the Jews of the ghettos (even if those characteristics are innocent) vulnerable to the unique slaughter that was the Holocaust.
This film, like Schindler's List, would serve as a way to see the horrors that the Jewish people endured under Nazi Germany, in order to understand and make sure this never happens again, God willing.
Hopefully, if someone did see this film , it would result in the person becoming a little more compassionate towards their fellow human being.
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There will be people interested in learning about films such as this for various reasons. The same goes for Jud Suss. Being able to see, read, learn about prime sources used for terrible ends is important, especially when such films were well received in Europe (not just in Germany) when released. Henry Ford was raising a similar stink about "the international Jew" in the U.S. prior to this, and I'd like to see those writings exposed to the light as well, not buried and forgotten. I don't know about this one, but Jud Suss was apparently a popular blockbuster, and not only in Germany, and to bury that is akin to a cover-up to protect the guilty. The same can be said about the blatantly racist U.S. cartoons of not-so-long ago. Rather than bury this trash, dig it up and let its stink disrupt complacency and forgetting, DJ Spooky didn't tour with a reboot of Birth of a Nation because he was promoting the Klan... he was saying THIS IS WHAT THEY WERE SAYING...black=danger, Klan=protection. Expose it.
Will there be some who are stupid enough to see this at face value and use it to give their antisemitism a boost? Yes, sadly. Those people are going to know about and have this anyway. Let others, wanting to see inside the madness that some people still deny ever happened, look for themselves. Dredge it all up and shove it in people's faces, the excrement produced in Germany and elsewhere.
I like the idea behind the German film sadly called (in English) The Nasty Girl. I grew up in the Southern U.S. and once came by accident to find a cache of books privately printed by a so-called Christian minister detailing his views on the differences between the races... written at a time and place when it was okay to demonize the black race. If I could, I'd like to make that book available everywhere so that the good minister and his associates would be exposed to the light of a new day, for such views would be vilified by most now in that same area. I trust most readers would recognize where the evil is, though some, if they can read at all, might be swayed by the minister's "arguments."
Ignorance will persist always. Knowledge of this sort of film and similar materials won't, unless they aren't allowed to disappear. I think, now, 2016, propaganda for hatred such as this, when exposed, does more harm to antisemitism than it could ever do in aiding it. It's a controversial potentially dangerous call to make, and I may be wrong and may be giving people too much credit. I don't like cover-ups... feels like book burning... and I just can't see how anyone with a working brain could look upon this sort of film now as it was looked upon in 1940.
Are you loathsome tonight? Does your madness shine bright?