What is the link?


I had no clue any of Lars Von Trior's film were "Trilogies" until I looked up information on "Zentropa" after seeing the last 30 minutes on IFC the other day. I own "Dancer in the Dark" "Dogville" and am about to get "Breaking the Waves"--all of which I love--But I made no connection between "Breaking" and "Dancer" what-so-ever, other than they were about a female lead that had a spiral downfall into a depressing ending....I mean...it didn't seem like "Dancer" was a sequal or anything--same concepts, yes....but....not the same characters like "Mandalay" and "Dogville" I don't know...maybe I missed something the 13 times I saw "Dancer in the Dark"--Is "The Idiots" the link between "Breaking the Waves" and "Dancer in the Dark" that makes it noticably a "trilogy" or is it just considered that because of the Golden "Age" or whatever.....concept Von Trior has...

I would really love to see this film because I loved "Breaking the Waves" (10/10) and "Dancer in the Dark" (10/10) --much better than "Dogville" (8/10)-but still respectively good. So don't think I'm bashing Von Trior--I just always have this tone. It seems interesting and now I have to see it--makes more sense that I kept thinking "Breaking" and "Dancer" were soooo much alike, but yeah, just that one question: Is there a connection, or are they just similiar concepts? Thank you.

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SPOILERS BELOW

Lars von Trier based Idioterne, Breaking The Waves and Dancer In The Dark on his memory of a book he read as a child. It was a book about a girl with a golden heart who sacrifices everything to everybody who wants help. In the end she sacrifices her heart because someone needs it more than she does (basically what happens I remember).

All those three films is based on this in the way the female characters are built. They all sacrifice everything and in the end their lives. Don't take it too literally though. But I think it's quite easy to see that it's the same female role. Think about this when you watch the end of Dogville and take it with a smile. In Dogville she doesn't just get revenge for what has happened to her, but also for what happened to all the lead females in the previous trilogi.

Hope this helps you :)

NB!!!! If anyone has that book which Lars von Trier based it on or know the title I would love to hear it. Mail me at tobias at freeall.dk, thanks in advance!

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you retard, dogville isn´t a pro revenge movie, eve lars von trier says that he liked doing it because the whole dialogue between grace and her father, though it seems that the movie goes for it, is totally against his beliefs, and what he is showing is that grace is also a part of all the idiocy of dogville. That´s why the narrator says that it is probably that dogville has not left grace, she is part of it. ( i don´t remember what the narrator says, but it is something like that) Dogville, in resume, has created an escencial dogville in grace.......................................




"I´ll *beep* anything that moves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" Frank Booth - Blue Velvet

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I never said that Dogville was pro revenge. I said that she got revenge, not just revenge for what happened to that female character in Dogville but also revenge for happened to all the other lead female characters in the before mentioned movies.

Maybe Lars von Trier himself says something about what the film is not. But as I see it it's revenge for what happened in the other film. Lars would maybe disagree, but I still think that's what happens. There's at least always a thing called subconscience which can play tricks on you.

And please, don't start bitching and calling people retards/idiots(get it) or whatever you think. If I had to bitch I could say that you didn't remember the 'n' in 'even' which is rather stupid you know. So calm down and see if you can't say things in a nice way, ay.

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Ah yes you should'nt call people reatrds, they are just getting in tiuch with their inner idioterne

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"Lars would maybe disagree, but I still think that's what happens."

Death of the author....I like it.

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