Josephine and Jeppe


In the scene when Joephine and Jeppe make love, they seem to almost be retarded as opposed to acting. I found this scene incredibly moving but also strange because it deviated from the usual behaviour of 'the idiots'. Usually they all start 'spassing' to affect and disrupt people trying to go about their every day lives, however in this scene there is no-one watching and all their actions seem natural, however they are clearly still 'spassing'

Did anyone pick up on this and do you think Jeppe and/or Josephine are actually mentally retarded?

The case for Josephine being slighly ill is reinforced when her father comes to pick her up. He mentions her 'pills' and all the other members of the group seem genuinely puzzled.

Is she actually ill and did she join the group of idiots because she wanted to fit in?



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Good question, I'd like to know that too.

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They are not.
Both of them ar Danish actors, who have appered in several movies.
Nicolai Lee Kaas (Jeppe) is one of the biggest actors in Denmark.
They are normal allright ;)

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Um... I think the person asking the question meant in the context of the film, not in real life.
Jeez, if everyone in films was like their screen persona in real life, the world would be crawling with serial killers and psychopaths. Rather than just America.

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As the film moved towards the end and this scene, I had to reassess my assumptions that I had made and I found the film became more interesting. The clearcut line between pretending to spas/be retarded, and the question of the characters actual mental health was one of the powerful ideas in the film.

There is also the scene when Stoffer has to be tied to the bed. Was this genuine mental distress/breakdown of the character, or the pretending being taken further? I suspect the first.

How balanced and coherent are these characters? Are the genuine difficulties that they have integrating into society intellectual, or is it because of a somewhat disturbed mental state that they rebel and form this commune? Or does is start as an intellectual/political exercise and then the pretending becomes part of them and they become damaged by it? I love this ambiguity and it leaves the viewer thinking about the film for some time.

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I thin they just spassed because they were happy. You can see the scene somewhere in the first hour of the movie where they say that when they spass they fill happy.

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It seems to me that the spassing, originally intended as a form of protest or mockery of society, becomes over the course of the film a means of personal liberation. A movement towards vulnerability. As the characters find the idiot within, they allow themselves to become not just imitations of "idiots" but a special sort of wholly liberated individual. Spassing becomes an act of total nudity...the characters shed their socially acceptable personalities and expose a sort of vulnerable inner child. Thus Stoffer's scene were he strips off his clothes and throws a fit...he allows his rage to run wild instead of taming it. The scene between Josephine and Jeppe in which they make love as idiots, with all of their insecurity and vulnerability on display, is an act of tenderness thousands of times more intimate than a routine sexual encounter between two seasoned adults, in which their vulnerability could remain hidden.

This also explains why Stoffer decides the next step is for everyone to spass to their families and colleagues. In effect he is asking them to expose the vulnerable inner child they all are able to express in spassing beyond the confines of their safe group to the hardened, unloving "adult" world.

This is ultimately what I liked about the movie.

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