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significance of the chocolate milk speech?


Well, it wasn't really a speech, but it was a quirky little something. Do you think there is significance within that scene besides the fact that we finally see the two girls while they seem comfortable with the situation? I mean the actual content of the speech... was that significant?

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I don't think it really was, except for Elin saying "It doesn't matter" maybe indicating that she's not going to worry about doing things that are weird anymore.

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I think to show that for once, both girls are genuinly happy and content with life.

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I think that's a fair interpretation. Personally, I always thought of it as just a cute scene, with no deep symbolism, hidden meaning or anything like that.

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I think it was supposed to be a commentary on how finding your sense of self during your teenage years is kind of like Elin's method of making chocolate milk, specifically how she had to keep mixing and remixing. It's messy and involves a lot of trial and error, but it can be ultimately rewarding.

We definitely get to see this in Elin's arc. First she tries flitting from guy to guy, which just leaves her bored. Then, she starts a little romantic misadventure with Agnes, which scares and confuses her. To make herself feel better, she tries settling for something long-term with Johan, only to discover how different she is from those around her and how scared she is of being silent and complacent, like Johanj, which leads her back to Agnes.

Naturally, she's so wrapped up in trying to figure out what she wants, she has no idea how her trial and error is hurting those around her, specifically by breaking Agnes' heart (the possibility of which doesn't even occur to her, until Victioria spreads it around), and how she, albeit inadvertently, uses Johan.

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Good post, twibbet!

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You hit the nail right on the head. Moodysson added the scene during the shooting and I'm glad he did. It's an ending as sweet and rich as the chocolate milk they drink. A perfect conclusion to this wonderful little movie.

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That was what I thought too. Just a metaphor for finding out who you really are at that age. It's also possible that there's no message here, but I think otherwise since there is a bit of a speech you could say. That makes you think there is something to be told.

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i studied this film for my A level in Film studies and one of my class mates also saw the choclate milk as a significant role in the film and came up with this theory:

Eline always makes too much chocolate milk and when she makes it fors Agnus there is the right amount of chocolate milk
this shows that eline was looking for something extra throughout the film and that when she finds agnus that her life is now complete and not overflowing.

well he said something like that anyway lol

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As I've heard it the Moodysson didn't really know how to end the film. Then someone (maybe himself) came up with the bright idea of ending it with chocolate milk since that's what the beginning was about. So they tied the beginning to the end in a way.
That's the only real reason I've heard. I'm sure film-students can find a lot of 'hidden' meanings though. :-)

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I think that the scene is meant to represent that Eline and Agnes like each other and are happy... in other words, I think there is no symbolism or hidden meaning.

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I think it is the worst ending ever. The movie is great up until that scene.

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Good question but i don't think there's any simbolysm after that ending. But if we take it as a simple game i could say that The CHOCOLATE (Elin) finally found the right amount of MILK (Rebecka). Good merge then :-)
Well, i think quite a lot here hit the point. Calm down a bit after the toilet-outing scene (it's a teenage comedy after all not a big drama) , and add a kids-sweetness menage scene in spite of the Elin's "we had to beep" thing. I mean, Ok, probably the ending wasn't in the original script and the director added at the end of the shooting, as often it occurs some ideas come during a making of a movie. However, to end the same way as the movie was started is quite a classic in cinema, and in my opinnion, in that film it fits perfectly.
For some reasons that movie apperars to me like a well done mix between "But i'm a cheerleader" and "The breakfast club".

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Disagree. Though them leaving together holding hands was satisfying I'm really glad they added the scene at the end. It gives the film even more innocence and brings us back to what the film was about..the two girls enjoying each other's company. It leaves you with a warm feeling that I think the scene before didn't really express as well as the final scene.

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As I've heard it the Moodysson didn't really know how to end the film. Then someone (maybe himself) came up with the bright idea of ending it with chocolate milk since that's what the beginning was about.

Agree. I think people can get carried away over-analysing the scene.

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I thought of it also as a comment on facades which is one of the secondary themes in the movie.

Elin: "We're gonna go *beep* now!"
-and then BOOM next clip they are having something quite different than sex. Innocent chocolate milk. Like the kids they are.

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As a pretentious film student twat, I think there was symbolism to be found in the chocolate milk (what a great line, I'ma use that)
I think a poster a few above got it right.

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There isn't any symbolism. The actresses scripted the scene because the director couldn't work out how to end the movie. It's just what it is, them having fun together.

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I think because most of the film was fairly low-key he wanted to end on a quiet personal scene, rather than the big dramatic scene of them leaving the toilet

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I loved the final scene and loved the movie. Just about the perfect coming-of-age movie for any culture. I really got the feeling that the dialogue in the final scene was improvised by Alexandra Dahlström, particularly the ending bit where she said "I make a lot of chocolate milk....that doesn't matter." It looked like Rebecka Liljeberg just about lost it and started laughing. Beautiful scene and a beautiful story. I've seen it twice and actually liked it even better on second viewing.


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