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The Funny Pedophilia...


Of course I'll get alot of backlash from the pretentious "art" community, because they think it makes them cultured if they can accept ANYTHING in "arts" name. So they'll sing the praises of this immoral (W)Ho(re)llywood garbage, that's tries so hard to portray pedophilia, rape, etc, as something to try to identify with. Thus slowly making it less objectionable.

Hollywood has long been carrying Alfred Kinsey's torch for mainstreaming deviant activity and this is just one more example. Reprehensible garbage is what this is! And it's disguised as lighthearted and humorous(to a degree). People need to wake up! They'll be objectively exploring bestiality next... stay tuned!


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It's not anyone else's fault that you missed the point. You aren't supposed to identify with the pedophile or even like him. If you do, well, that's something you need to think about. It's amazing to me how conservatives talk about how filthy and depraved society is when it's them that has the filthy and depraved minds.

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You aren't supposed to identify with the pedophile or even like him.
He was portrayed in human terms, which is sympathetic to a point. In other words his perversion wasn't portrayed as sick, but more like "oh, different strokes for different folks." They even portrayed the NAMBLA kids Dad as the hateful hick and whoever spray painted his house was to be seen similarly. It's not anyone else's fault that you missed the point.

It's amazing to me how conservatives talk about how filthy and depraved society is when it's them that has the filthy and depraved minds.
It's amazing to me that people like you make up crap like "conservatives have the filthy and depraved minds." Pitifully that's you're only recourse. So the liberals/progressives that think anything goes, have the sanitary minds LOL

You're a joke!


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The movie is amazing, and doesn't say that pedophillia is good at all. Yes, the portrayal of pedophillia is slightly more sympathetic than in most films, but it is also disturbing, depressing, and disgusting. The film is about the perversions and evils of society, and it is brilliant.

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A sympathetic portrayal can't do justice to the true evil of child molestation/pedophilia.

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Nothing can do justice to the true evil of pedophilia. The movie wasn't an indictment of Dr. Maplewood's sexual appetite but it certainly wasn't an endorsement of it. His crimes drive his family apart and create a rift between him and his son. At no point did I get the impression Todd Solondz wanted to make pedophilia a mainstream phenomenon.

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At no point did I get the impression Todd Solondz wanted to make pedophilia a mainstream phenomenon.
Baby steps, Hey would. Rome wasn't built in a day. You could definitely see the humanization of pedophilia at work here, though.

Liberals are working toward "if it feels good, do it."


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Solondz depicted pedophilia objectively. Audiences don't need to be told pedophilia is bad; it's a universally acknowledged principle that it is. If the screenplay had directly condemned pedophilia, it would have resembled a PSA and not a linear motion picture. However, Dr. Maplewood's sexual appetites do disintegrate all of his relationships and nearly cost him his life. Not exactly a ringing endorsement of kiddy-fiddling.

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Not exactly a ringing endorsement of kiddy-fiddling.
I challenge you to show me where I called it a "ringing endorsement." This movement is in the early stages and a "ringing endorsement" would stall their progress, they need to move slowly on sensitive subjects, such as this.

The movie is meant to humanize and even allow us to sympathize with the "kiddy-fiddler." You liberal, (theater/art) types can argue all you want, but I know what I'm talking about. They have to spoon-feed these social changes to us, slowly.

Just like 40 years ago, no one could've imagined that one day(~2010) people would celebrate homosexuality and transgender. Now they're called brave and courageous. No one would've imagined that, but slowly they widdled away(mostly molding the minds of impressionable youth) the resistance and now here we are.

They call it "progressive" or "evolved" because they know, no one wants to be unevolved or backward. Using those words imparts shame or embarrassment which gradually causes people to give up their moral/religious beliefs, in favor of being "progressive," like everyone around them.

This principle is an established fact if you understand causing social change to accept something previously deemed unacceptable or immoral.


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This ass hat just compared homosexuality with pedophilia.

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This ass hat just compared homosexuality with pedophilia.
"Ass hat" is such a cool and trendy insult jimmy, you're sure to impress with it.

Pedophilia and homosexuality are both immoral and hedonistic, serving no reproductive purpose. Have your parents explain it to you. Good luck parents...


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Humans themselves serve no purpose whatsoever yet we all still exist. Have your parents explained that to you? Have they also explained that there is no god so there is no reason to fear eternal damnation? Just be a good person, have sex with other consenting adults and don't sexually abuse children. There is nothing immoral or hedonistic about homosexuality unless you consider any other heterosexual relationship hedonistic. Reproduction has nothing to do with it or heterosexuals wouldn't use birth control.

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I'm a fully grown adult man, though I'm sure it's fun to imply the contrary.

Have they also explained that there is no god so there is no reason to fear eternal damnation?
You being an especially cocky atheist makes you unworthy of reply.

Reproduction has nothing to do with it or heterosexuals wouldn't use birth control.
This is an especially stupid rebuttal. How does circumventing the purpose of intercourse, prove that intercourse isn't intended for procreation? You're an especially thick atheist and you better enjoy the hell out of that while you can.


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Ok, I'm the thick one, we'll go with that. LOL There's no need to reply any longer, you might as well save your breath. You'll need it to blow up your next date.

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LOL There's no need to reply any longer, you might as well save your breath. You'll need it to blow up your next date.
Good one! Another shot-in-the-dark style insult. Like those priceless gems implying my parents haven't explained everything to me yet. Like that there isn't a God, for example.

It's sad that you're not even intelligent enough to realize that that is an opinion and not an absolute fact. There's no way for anyone to know that as an absolute fact and my parents believe in God, as do I.

Your otherworldly intuition keeps failing you... I'm 39 years old and married for the 2nd time.


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Troll

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Troll 👏

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Definition of a Troll 👏

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Lol, no one even brought politics into it, zealot.

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most pedophiles are human beings though, they go through life, doing normal things, working jobs, going to the supermarket, living their lives and molesting children.

Pedophiles aren't over the top mustache twirling cartoon villains, they are your neighbors, your teachers, your best friends.

When movies try to portray them as some over the top villain it comes across as insulting to the viewer. I didn't sympathize or feel anything but disgust toward the pedobear, I felt bad for his family because of what he was accused of and the way it was going to follow them around as long as they continued to live where they lived.

Also Hollywood has embraced many long time pedophiles such as Woody Allen and Roman Polanski, as well as countless other pedo's that have well known perversions but are protected by the hollywood elites..

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most pedophiles are human beings though, they go through life, doing normal things, working jobs, going to the supermarket, living their lives and molesting children.

Pedophiles aren't over the top mustache twirling cartoon villains, they are your neighbors, your teachers, your best friends.
I know they are literally human beings and that they aren't mustache twirling cartoon characters, but this movie portrayed him sympathetically as if all he wants to do is find love(as we all do), but with children(as most of us don't). I, like you, was disgusted with the "pedobear" but as you imply, Hollywood is sympathetic to pedos and that's apparent here. They don't have to bathe in feces to be portrayed repulsively. Don't you think this portrayal(and others like it) will soften some anti-pedo attitudes to a small degree? That's my beef!


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He doesn't "want to find love", he wants to fulfill extremely disturbing urges that it seems he can't really control. All the other characters in this film are, essentially, just looking for happiness, which he is doing as well.

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Pedophiles are human beings. You are a human being.

Personally, I found this movie way more tragic and heartbreaking than funny.

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Pedophiles are human beings. You are a human being.

Personally, I found this movie way more tragic and heartbreaking than funny.
Oh you bleeding heart liberals are special, with your sympathy for even the most depraved.


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If you were to call me a bleeding heart liberal to my face, I would punch you in the throat.

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Agree!

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Lame-O!!!

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Lame-O!!!
The boy lover says "get off my pedophilia," it makes me happy.

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Are you really stupid or just a troll?
I'm going with troll...

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He's a definition of a troll lol

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Oh yes, the baby steps of Happiness from 17 years ago...because since then pedophilia has become much more accepted. Right? These days everyone loves pedophiles.

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Troll

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I *beep* your whore wife up the ass again last week!! She LOVES it, but is afraid of asking you to do it cuz she knows (like most bigoted jesusfreak neanderthals) you're a closet fag & doesn't want to tempt you into abandoning your "homophobe" mask & coming out. I'm a bit worried about the bruises on the face. Being a scumbag neanderthal bigoted troll whose death would make the world a better place is one thing, but wife beating is UNACCEPTABLE.

Stop wife beating, closet homo! And kill yourself so me & that ho meller can just cut out the middle man & move into her house.

BTW, this is his 50 cent jizzmop wife's IMDB profile. Good news, SHE'S LOOKING FOR DICK PICS!: http://www.imdb.com/user/ur59722204/

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Is murder deviant? I've seen hundreds of movies and tv shows where children are murdered.

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