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How can a spoiler spoil what is already garbage?


I wonder who votes for this sick stuff on IMDb ... I think many movies just have either fake votes for them, or the only people who see them are just weird or perverted.

In the case of the "War Zone" this is supposed to be a serious look at incest and how painful it is ... such a sensitive look, with porno camera angles, and magnificently filmed scenes, and music, and of course to make it all right in the end ... no pun intended, the evil father is killed by the son.

Face it, this movie is nothing but a surreptitious look at forbidden sex put right up on the silver screen with airs of self-righteousness. Tim Roth is one sick puppy to think he is doing anything but making it easier to show sicko sex, abuse and porn in the movies and purveying smut to the ticket buying public.

That this piece of garbage would be a 7+ is a joke.

I mean ... I don't know anyone who has been sexually abused, but I sure cannot imagine these people living in such a nice clean home, living such a normal life, with no sign of it to anyone. Read about this stuff and the signs are all over the place.

Not to mention the sex scenes and the father having anal sex with his daughter and the daughter says nothing, I mean, how did this happen, and then it is all just fine because the son finds out and murders his father.

Nothing is shown, nothing is taught, nothing is resolved, I just think this is like one low garbage piece of smut that someone took on just to get past the censors by pretense that it had something to do with something useful or socially responsible.

Ha ... what a joke. The people associated with his movie might learn something about abuse if they were put away in prison like they should be and had to endure a bit of it ... then their next movie might not be so seductively filmed.

- My post was deleted because of a IMDB user who disagreed with me - so I'm reposting it. This movie was really terrible, in many ways. If you have something to say about a controversial subject, or you want to make a movie about someone else's informed experience, fine ... but this movie was exploitative trash in my opinion.

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"Ha ... what a joke. The people associated with his movie might learn something about abuse if they were put away in prison like they should be and had to endure a bit of it ... then their next movie might not be so seductively filmed."

You say you don't know anyone who has been abused- well Roth himself has recently come forward and spoken out about the abuse he endured when he was a child. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-1168491/Im-victim-child-abuse-reveals-Tim-Roth.html

It's very common for abused children to tell no-one for years, paticularly if the abuser is a parent who has been able to groom a child from birth, thats why no one outside the family saw the signs.

I have to point out, that if you thought any of the scenes in tis film were 'seductively filmed' I think you're the one with the problem, not the filmmakers.

History will be kind to me for I intend to write it.- Churchill

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fist off. u know nothing of directing. this movie was directed perfectly. the movie showed the truth about things. oh and yeah i know people who have been sexualy abused no there are no signs to the fact alot of sexualy abused people live in nice homes have a nice seemingly happy family who keeps there house clean oh and yeah just because he bent her over doesnt mean it was anal there is such a thing as doggy style which has nothing to do with anal. tim roth took a disturbing book and made a movie out of it he cut out alot of disturbing scenes just to make the movie barable

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I think it is very sad that you started a thread four years ago railing on this film (and its maker), in which many people contributed lengthy, considerate and well thought out responses and here you are again as if you learned nothing. In that thread you seemed to learn a few things, your way of thinking was modified somewhat by the reasoned, intelligent responses people offered. Obviously you learned nothing, and I surely will not throws pearls to swine, but the bottom line is you are WRONG. Sorry, you are simply wrong. Repeating your argument, re-posting your review won't change the fact that you are wrong. Saying it assiduously, louder, with greater fervor doesn't change the fact that your opinion is in the minority, as evidenced by its very high IMDB score that you so shrilly note and the overwhelming multitude of positive comments about the movie in these forums.

The contentions that you list (boorishly) are absurd. Gems like, "I mean, how did this happen". What? How did it happen? Hello! You could say that about any film. "Oh gee, they didn't tell how the bad man in Silence of the Lambs became a bad man!" The film doesn't *need* to tell "how it happened". It doesn't matter "how it happened". This film isn't about the father, and how he became an incestuous, abusive pedophile. The film is about the horrific discovery of a boy, his journey in righting this wrong, and the story of the abused girl. If you want to tell a story about how an incestuous, abusive father becomes one, grab a camera! Pick up a PEN! However, do us all a favor before you do and excise the phrase "I mean" and the usage of the ellipsis from your vocabulary!


"...nothing is left of me, each time I see her..." - Catullus

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The problem with idiots is not so much that they are stupid, and
not even so much that they have bad judgement, the real problem
is how long, loud, repetitively they will blather on about what
they think with no evidence trying to be right.

Being an idiot you would have no idea how to right a wrong. You
and most of the people shooting their mouths off here just
like to see titillating content in movies and call it sophisticated
art, but it is not. The movie is trash, the ideas in it are trash,
that is if there were any ideas in it.

The thought in it was probably how to titillate to the max and
get it distributed to encourage bozos like you to come out of the
closet and trumpet what a lack of intelligence and moral
fortitude you have.

Finally the one argument you do have is about how I may have a
few grammatical errors in my writing. Fair enough, I did it
deliberately, otherwise you might think you are worth more
than a passing fart in the wind. At least the stink of a fart
in the wind blows away, your idiot words will be here forever.

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The problem with idiots is not so much that they are stupid, and
not even so much that they have bad judgement, the real problem
is how long, loud, repetitively they will blather on about what
they think with no evidence trying to be right.


This is exactly what I said to you, albeit with far greater eloquence. I suppose you misspelled "judgment" on purpose as well - right?

Being an idiot you would have no idea how to right a wrong. You
and most of the people shooting their mouths off here just
like to see titillating content in movies and call it sophisticated
art, but it is not. The movie is trash, the ideas in it are trash,
that is if there were any ideas in it.


I have no doubt that you could not find any "ideas in it". In point-of-fact I'm quite sure you couldn't find an idea in an encyclopedia.

The thought in it was probably how to titillate to the max and
get it distributed to encourage bozos like you to come out of the
closet and trumpet what a lack of intelligence and moral
fortitude you have.


You really like that word "titillate" don't you? Suggestion: consult a thesaurus.

Finally the one argument you do have is about how I may have a
few grammatical errors in my writing. Fair enough, I did it
deliberately, otherwise you might think you are worth more
than a passing fart in the wind. At least the stink of a fart
in the wind blows away, your idiot words will be here forever.


Riiiiiight. You did it deliberately. Sure. And if you believe that I have some land to sell you in the swamps of Florida. Speaking of farts in the wind, I think you just blew by.


"...nothing is left of me, each time I see her..." - Catullus

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Well, everyone is entitled to an opinion, but your post indicates that your maturity level is not high enough to enable you to understand the film. It was the most harrowing film that I have ever seen, yet it was somehow beautiful due to the cinemetography and the rawness of the actors' performances.

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>> It was the most harrowing film that I have ever seen, yet it was somehow beautiful

Yeah, that's why it is garbage. People today see this contraposition of plus and minus missing what it really signifies, and you have the gall to question my maturity level. This film on the face of it is trival to understand, it is the underlying BS that slips by the superficial viewer.

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As some one who just spent what looks like quite a bit of time undercutting your own point ... welcome to idiocy, you wear it well.

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