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Some Differences from the Classic Version of Flash


I very much enjoyed my DVDs of the three 1936-40 Flash Gordon films released in serial form and later shown on TV (with the 1950s broadcasts having the "Flash Gordon" in the titles changed to "Space Soldiers" to avoid confusion with the '54 just-for-TV Flash Gordon production). So I didn't immediately appreciate the Flash Gordon TV show of the 1950s when I began seeing it on DVD. The show has some differences from the films that I had to adjust to: 1) Not only are the adventures not set in the present, they're set over a thousand years from now. Too bad the show's producers didn't have the budget to depict the future more elaborately; not enough of what you see looks well beyond the 20th century. 2) Flash, Dale Arden & Dr. Zarkov are agents of the Galaxy Bureau of Investigation (essentially space cops), not amateur world saviors. The show lacks the films' charm of people whose lives have been put on hold overcoming thru wits, daring, and lots of luck. Here, fighting cosmic menaces is the job of Flash & friends, not an occasional task thrust upon them. 3) No Ming the Merciless apparently. This was tough to take since he works very well as THE foe of Flash Gordon. I mean, doing Flash Gordon without Ming is worse than doing Superman without Lex Luthor. Maybe that's why this TV series had a fairly brief life. The producers should've featured Ming as head of a spacefaring mighty empire - based on his home planet Mongo - that clashed with the G.B.I. Anyway, there is one difference from the films that is a definite improvement. The spaceship of Flash & friends (with an actual name here, the Sky Flash) looks better, esp. when it's flying thru outer space. The design of the ship, inside as well as outside, is fairly believable; quite better than the rocketships of the films that resemble submarines and seem to be propelled by fireworks. It's also worth noting that the Dale Arden here, as she's a scientist like Zarkov (though not a genius), is more of a help to Flash and less of a damsel in distress. And the super-effecient stun guns of this show are neat replacements for the deadly rayguns used in the films.

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Hm... Well, the original Flash Gordon is a novel, not the Saturday serials with Buster Crabbe. It was set a bit into the future, but still took place in the latter half of the twentieth century - I think! I'm not sure, since it has been years since I read the book. Then, there was/is? the syndicated "comic" strip, which did take Flash, Dale, and Zarkov into the future. Ming was part of the original book and some of the history of the strip. The serials were put together to look like the strip.

History has a nasty habit of stepping all over SF writes/producers (look at Trek, for example - we haven't launch any sleeper ships or had any eugenecs wars to produce the likes of Khan). When WWII came along, it changed a lot of things about Flash Gordon going forward. As the Marshall plan for rebuilding Europe went into effect, the Flash Gordon story went futher and further into the future and became a lot more like Buck Rogers (which has a similar genesis).

The key to all of this is that Flash, for the future, went to exotic places, and rather than try to create a believable future, most series went the route of the "monster of the week" until Star Trek went where no one had gone before. Only a few movies (the great silent, Metropolis, and Forbidden Planet) really explored man in the future. Almost all the rest of it was an "Outer Limits" experience or had limited exploration to the planets in the solar system or beneath the Earth (i.e., Edgar Rice Burroughs). Went Crabbe et al did the serials, it wasn't much more than walking into the future about twenty minutes or so...

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I've never heard of a novel, aside from a novelization of the early comics. My understanding is that Flash Gordon was initiated as a Sunday strip to compete with Buck Rogers.

As far as screen versions, to my mind there is no equal to the Buster Crabbe serials. The TV series was much more interesting than I expected, but has nowhere close to the profound fun and innocent adventure of the serials. And don't misunderstand me, I love serious science fiction and nothing is more enjoyable to me than an Arthur C. Clarke or Stephen Baxter novel, but to my mind the Flash Gordon TV series has neither the fun of the serials nor the intellectual, scientific, and philosophical aspects of real science fiction. I see it as basically a curiosity of early TV science fiction, and as a Flash Gordon completist I wish to add it to my collection; right now I only have ten episodes. Of course I really like Joe Nash as Zarkov. He might actually be my favorite Zarkov. But give me Buster Crabbe and the lovely Jean Rogers any day.

Collin R. Skocik

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You are correct, the original incarnation of Flash Gordon was the comic strip created by Alex Raymond in 1934, that was meant to compete with Buck Rogers. The character has been adapted in numerous forms, including many books, and a novelization of the 1980 film, but the original is very decidedly a comic strip that was later compiled into comics and then books.

And glad to see another Flash Gordon completest out there! Here's hoping the new Sci-Fi original series will not disappoint.

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****Beautifully Cited!! It sure is refreshing to read comments from my generation and not all the KID CRAP mostly found on IMDb!!

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I think this is the Flash Gordon seriel I watched in the mid 1970s as a child with my father, one episode every week over a few months, late on Friday night. He and I were really into it, and inspite of being very young I only missed a few episodes. Ironically I don't remember Dale, the female. But I do remember the other member, who was a older bearded man, a type of scientist. Then when I looked this up recently I saw his name was Dr. Zarkov, and I then remembered that is what my father had called him then. But I had always during this time of watching this referred to him as the man that runs the computer. I don't know why exactly, and my father more than once told me his real name, but I always continued to refer to him as this. This was the mid 1970s, I'm not even sure if computers existed then, and I'm nearly positive they didn't in the mid 1950s when this was filmed. So where I got that from I just don't know. I think it was probably because Dr. Zarkov flew their spaceship, which resembled a computer for me (and I'm sure with his brilliance he could run any computer today flawlessly). But I do have very good mid 1970s memories of watching this series, and seeing how it unfolded from week to week, until Flash and comrades won at the end. And I do have a few questions. Does anyone remember a group near the end called the tree people, who lived on a forest planet, and were they friends or foes? Also, didn't Flash and comrades' main enemy have an invention that was going to destroy Earth by causing things to simply fall apart and destruct, which it did begin to do near the end, before they stopped it(the head enemy watched this on a video and said, triumpantly, "It's working even better than I'd hoped". If anyone else that watched this knows this stuff, please respond.

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Your memories of Flash Gordon don't match any of the TV episodes I've seen, but they sure do resemble one of the classic serials, "Flash Gordon's Trip to Mars" (1938). This, the best of the trio of Flash Gordon serials IMO, is probably what you saw in the '70s (although maybe in condensed form and/or with a different movie title). I think it was once pretty common for the Flash serials to be shown on TV. You might want to check out a DVD of "Trip to Mars" and see if it brings back memories.

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<<"I think it was once pretty common for the Flash serials to be shown on TV."<<

It sure was! In the sixties I watched them in the afternoon, and also right before the school bus came in the morning. It always killed me if the bus came before the cliffhanger ending of a chapter. And back then, it didn't seem so hokey and ancient to me--these serials had a magical quality that I loved.

As for the TV series--wow! It's one of the cheapest-looking things I've ever seen. My introduction to the series after buying a three-episode disc for fifty cents (can't beat that) was "Akim The Terrible", which looks like it was filmed in somebody's garage using Halloween decorations and stuff salvaged from a junk pile. For me, of course, this just adds to the entertainment value. I get a big kick out of stuff like this.

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Maybe it’s because I grew up watching the Buster Crabbe Flash Gordon serials on TV as a kid, but I just saw an episode of the TV SHOW Flash Gordon, and it sucked out loud! Steve Holland comes across like an A-Hole. At least in the episode I saw (Flash Gordon and the Planet of Death.)
In my humble opinion, of course.

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My friend is related to Buster Crabe. He is his great great uncle, I think.

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