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The ending confused me totally...


Were they supposed to be enjoying a simulation world and met inside? When they woke up at the end, where were they? Very confusing ending, although the rest was great.

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Very confusing ending, although the rest was great.

It's SUPPOSED to be confusing and open-ended. The audience is supposed to be wondering if they're finally in the real world or another level of simulation.


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Exactly! That's why the film ended as if an old CRT TV was being switched off.

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When they woke up at the end, where were they?
The real world, year 2024, as far as we know. Of course, it is possible that what the characters believe is the real world is just another simulation, but there's nothing in the movie to indicate that.

When someone plugs into a character in a simulation, and they are killed, the character from the simulation takes their place in the real world (or the higher level simulation in the case of a simulation within a simulation). That's how the bartender from simulated 1937 ended up in simulated 1999. So, near the end, Douglas Hall (a character native to the 1999 simulation) gets plugged into by David (his real-world 2024 user), who gets killed, thus transferring the consciousness of Douglas Hall to "real world 2024". The woman manipulated it to happen that way, so she could trade David for Doug in her real world.

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You are really good at this. Thanks for clearing this up. Well done. I give you five stars. I hope people read this so they can see what you showed me :-)

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Congratulations... YOU HAVE ADD!

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"there's nothing in the movie to indicate that". Yeah there is, the movie ends with a Tv effect. The white line that appears briefly when you shutdown some old TV's. Which means they were monitored as well, just that perhaps nobody actually bothered to "take control" of one in the "real" world or there were not documented cases.

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Yep yep yep. I remember that specifically and going, "Aw, man!"

Still, can't say I didn't expect it a little bit.

Cool movie, anyways... "The Matrix" without the kung fu. Sorta

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"Which means they were monitored as well"

No, that doesn't necessarily mean that at all. It was the end of the movie, not an event that happened in the movie's story. The same goes for when any other movie fades or cuts to black at the end, it doesn't mean it suddenly got dark in the story, or that some unseen observer character closed his eyes.

Simulations were the theme of this movie, and someone may have simply thought the TV turning off effect at the end went along with the theme. If they had zoomed out after and shown that someone had been watching a monitor that just turned off, that would be a different story. Otherwise, there's nothing to prove that it wasn't just a stylistic way of fading to black to end the movie.

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But that would be too obvious which is the point. It leaves you wondering because the others thought their world was real

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@MaximRecoil: Yea, your answer is 100% correct. The film is actually crystal clear. The only "question" is the obvious one: Is 2024 just another simulation?

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I've not seen this in a while but the fact the real person can have the conscience of a virtual version of himself go into his mind when he dies might be evidence that the real person isn't actually real.

Obviously it's all open for debate/interpretation which makes the film really interesting

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Or that its a self-perpetuating flaw in deisgning technology that for some reason needs to transfer your conciuosness back and forth to experience the simulation.

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I agree. The movie was great...didn't care for the ending. It spooked me out.

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It spooked me out


Yeah... I've been thinking that who knows... maybe at the end of the universe, it's just the same thing like the one in the movie when Ashton and also Douglas found out what is in their end of their world 😨

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Agreed

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