What happened to Tim at the end of 3?

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Well, you'd have to be a fool in your own right not to realize that your attempt at 'rewriting' the original line is abysmally bad.

Now, admittedly, I don't know the context in which your 'revision' is meant to be placed. So If your song is part of a larger conceptually themed work that has some hack songwriter torturing the minions of Hell with his inane songwriting skills, then I stand corrected as its obvious that your revision works. If that's not the case, however, I'd stick with the original line as it's exponentially better than what you've reduced it to.

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Oh yeah, but getting to the point of the thread. As has already been pointed out, whether intentional or not, continuity between installments of this series has always been disregarded:

Episode 1 to Episode 2: The [original Phantasm's] utterly surreal final shot of Michaeld being pulled back through the mirror into an other dimensional black void is transformed [in the beginning of the part 2] into something more mundane - namely that the Michael has simply been pulled into his closet.

Episode 2 to Episode 3:
a. Liz who is narrating the second installment and presented as Mike's soulmate is dispatched with nary a mention at the onset of pt. 3. I mean there's not even so much as a mention from Mike who should be grief-stricken given the extent of their psychic rapport. (Given the fact that the role of Mike has been resumed by Michael Baldwin in pt. 3, there's no reason why Liz couldn't have been played by another actress were it a case of Paula Irvine not being interested in reprising the character.)
b. Also, the obvious implication at the end of pt. 2 is that Reggie has been killed (granted, that seemed to be case at the end of pt. 1, before we realize that a large part of the precedings has been a dream and that it's Jody and not Reggie who is in fact dead). However, at the start of pt. 3, Reggie is right as rain and Liz has conveniently been dispatched of without any need for explanation.

Episode 3 to Episode 4:
a. While the Rocky and Tim sidekicks were a bad idea, at least Rocky's exit is at least explained (albeit poorly executed) at the end of pt. 3. Tim is an altogether different matter. Pt. 4 picks up precisely where pt. 3 leaves off (with Reggie pinned to a wall by a horde of spheres) but whereas Tim was present just prior to this scene at the end of pt. 3, he is completely forgotten about in pt. 4. Sure, we could assume that he has been killed by the dwarves (personally, I'd be all for that) but again, there's not so much as an expository line to give the viewer the smallest shred of clarification.
b. Mike is revealed to have a sphere inside his head as a result of the Tall Man's rather crude surgical procedure at the end of pt. 3. This wound magically heals at the beginning of pr. 4 resulting in The Tall Man having to essentially perform the same exact procedure (this time using a sphere as the bone saw) near the end of the pt. 4.

Episode 4 to Episode 5: At the end of episode 4 it's clear that Mike is dead. (He's just had a sphere (presumably containing his brain) removed from his head. Still, Mike is implausibly able to utter a word or two to Reggie before his ebbing consciousness plunges him into a final happy remembrance of the past that is effectively bittersweet. However, I'm expecting that if there's a 5th episode, that Mike will somehow be alive and kicking.


With all that said, because of its phantasmagorical nature, the Phantasm series is probably the only series that can get away with these kind of continuity errors(?) and not have it sink the series.

Oh, and for the record, I've been an avid phan of the series since seeing the original on the big screen back in 1980 (I didn't catch it during it's original theatrical release, but as part of a twin bill with The Fog, a year later) when it competely rocked my world. Anyone who thinks that any of the sequels can hold a candle to the magic that Coscarelli created with the original is sadly mistaken. Pt. 3 is definitely the weakest entry in the series. Pts 2 and 4 are respectable, worthy successors. But the original is nothing short of a masterpiece.



Peace,

Andy

Augh.

You people.......

Watch the end of this movie, then think.... think HARD...
if that doesn't work.....






"Definitions of phantasm on the Web:

* Illusion, ghost, a product of fantasy, a mental representation of a real object."

The series is titled "Phantasm"

"Its all in his head" is what the Tall Man says, if I rember correctly, but it was of that jist.


The entire series of movies are linked in that everything, the Tall Man, the shperes, Jody's death.... it was aaallllll in Mike's mind. It was either a delusion or hallucination by him. While it's debatable if it was all in his head or if with psycic powers made it all real. In the end, when Reggie goes into the final portal, Mike realizes what the Tall Man meant by what he said, and makes it right, again it's debatable wether he used his "powers" to return the world to the way it was or if he simply woke up from his visions, but nonetheless the world returns to the way it was.



All four movies are meant to be watched back to back, they're less sequels and more one fluid "bigger picture." The non sequitors and unexplainable happenings, like the finger bug, are there to further the idea that all of this is in Mike's head. Just products of his imagination that when they're left free, they consume the world.

Tim wasn't forgotten, and may well have lived, the story just wasn't about him. It was Mike's fantasy, and once Reggie was back in the place he needed to be in, Tim wasn't needed anymore by Mike.

Tim died, after he was pulled through the window, just as Liz died when she was, and like Mike WOULD have had Reggie not saved him.