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There is no moral dilemma


Only a very illogical person would say no to Linoge's terms.

I am so smart, the only thing I can't comprehend is how stupid everyone else is

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So what you're saying is that there's no LOGICAL dilemma. The dilemma is still very much a moral one. Maybe you haven't noticed but morals are very often not logical but yes I agree with you on that it would be illogical to disagree with his terms.

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No, the decision to believe him is stupid.

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Actually, I think the best decision was to stand up against Linoge, even using a purely logical and self-interested viewpoint.
After seeing Linoge's supernatural powers, appearance, statements, etc, it becomes clear that he is some sort of demon (Legion). This would make even skeptical, stubborn atheists (like me) realize that there is God, Heaven, Hell, etc, all the Bible stuff. So, meeting Linoge makes us sure we have an immortal soul, that will go somewhere after our brain dies. We can then describe the two options like this:
1 - Accept the deal, send a child to a demon (which would probably damn his/her soul), live some decades on Earth and then spend eternity in Hell.
2 - Deny the proposition, fight for your life along with everybody (with pretty bad odds, I know), and have pretty good chances to cross St Peter's gate and spend eternity in Heaven.
I fail to understand how someone can go with option 1, even more people who were already strong believers before the ordeal.

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Even if you don't believe in an afterlife, you have to weigh the survival of the townspeople vs roughly a million lives. That's how many Linoge's new pupil will probably kill over 5000 years.

Now on a moral standpoint, your turning the kid into Hitler.

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He was mot a demon. That much was clear when he entered the town meeting. He is not immortal. Demons are immortal. Therefore he is not a demon. Since he is not a demon - his powers is limited. If he is dieing, it is very likely he is weaker than his prime thus may very well be bluffing.
The existence of devil does not automatically create existence of GOD. Devil is not even in the bible. Original bible that is, not the retranslation that we have now. Devil was added much latter.

Neither god no devil prove existence of the afterlife either, therefore just because you made a deal with a wizard, does not mean you will burn in hell. The reaosn people took option 1 is because they valued their own lives (thier town) more than a child. This was selfish of them. However humans are not known to ever have long term perspective, just look at what we are doing to enviroment.

You do not udnerstand their choice because you try to apply logic via your own worldview only. You have to realized that 1. There are people who think differently and 2. People are not logical.
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This is 1/2 the reason failed for me. Firstly, it made no sense that a being with seemingly unlimited, undeniable power has to go through a silly ordeal of waiting on a town vote. Second, I thought the great "moral dilemma" was a poor one. The whole town gets wiped out, or one kid goes to live with some evil tutor who implies it will be to give the kid the same power. The premise is paying a ransom is evil.

That being said, if I was a parent I wouldn't have taken the deal.

Amy: I swear to God...I swear to God! That is NOT how you treat your human!

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I thought Mike Anderson was a hypocrite...earlier on in the film he says he believes in what Linoge can do...and yet he is willing to sacrifice an entire TOWN just to "save face"?
That has to be one of the worst pieces of storytelling I have ever seen, particularly when tacked on to an otherwise solid and well-written build-up. Mike Anderson as a character is flawed from a plot standpoint. He KNEW what Linoge said was the truth about a town full of scumbags (who were not much better than Linoge!). Therefore, giving one of the children up for adoption (and that's all it is, an ADOPTION) to a being of essentially the same character as the townspeople, would have been the best choice to make.
All in all, I don't buy him as a character.

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"I guess there is something about you that pisses me off"

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I would fight. I would NEVER put my survival over a child's soul. The townspeople should have unified and fought Linoge in my opinion. Yeah the odds might not have been in their favor BUT there is no way I could personally live with turning ANY child over to a complete monster! This is still my FAVORITE King adaptation to this day.

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It boils down to this. Mike said it all with one sentence "we cannot give one of our children to this monster"

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If they had all stood up to him, odds are Linoge would have just left them alone.

He couldn't even control one person to kill another (Billy). If Billy could resist him, then he couldn't make them all kill themselves.

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no, i would have rather die and have all the town die than to agree with that monster. I guess if I wasn't a mother them I would say, yeah give him a kid because it didn't affect me but I am a parent and I would not be able to give a child to that monster

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