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Dont understand Tom's choice at the end.


So he kills Peter begrudgingly in order to conceal his crimes. But hes not thinking ahead like he's always managed to do up until this point.

So he kills Peter. Leaves the boat and goes on about his business. Peter is discovered to be missing or dead by someone after a while and guess who EVERYONE points to?? Tom Ripley. Dickies family thinks he committed suicide, so who does Mr.Greenleaf start to suspect now as a possible murderer. The guy who has been around all these incidents: Tom Ripley.

So The talented Mr.Ripley has just shot himself in the foot, again. And Theres no Dickie Greenleaf to pass off blame to anymore since everyone thinks hes dead.

And What if Merediths parents say to Mr.Greenleaf when they get back to New York:"we met ur charming son on the boat. he and our daughter hit it off pretty good." OR if they pick up a paper and find in the Italian News Headlines "Dickie GreenLeaf kills Freddie and commits suicide". THen they know the guy they met is faking his identity to be Dickie, then they report him anyhow.

So i guess what im saying is the ending is well done and griping and sad and gets u emotionally. Which i suppose is the intention: "Tom cant help himself. Hes bound to suffer in silence and alone. Tom is ashamed of himself. or whatever else they wanted us to feel and think" But it wasnt thought out by the writer like the rest of the film was, in terms of logic.

The Talented Mr.Ripley: 8/10

1/10= Toxic
3= Disappointing
5= Ok
6= Recommended
8= Excellent!
10/10= Timeless Masterpiece.

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As the novels progress there is talk that Tom Ripley is a disreputable character. People suspect but nothing is proven. In Ripley's Game it is clear that as a middle-age man Tom knows exactly what is said about him. He mocks them as "scurrilous rumors" and he does what he does anyway. Ripley doesn't exactly get away with it all unscathed but until people pay the price personally they aren't sure what to believe.

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I see your point. He has to kill Meredith too. He had to kill her anyway, for the very reason you mention. For that reason, he also has to kill her family. He needs to kill multiple people on that boat. For that he needs time to himself, thus he must kill Peter. If he doesn't kill Peter, then he needs to concoct an excuse for being alone during the times necessary to kill Meredith and her family. But Peter will later put it together that Tom was gone during those times. That's why he needs to kill Peter, before killing Meredith and her family. We just don't see the later murders. Yea, stupid, but it's the best I can do.

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I think it all hinges on how easy it is to dispose with Peter's body. When I watched the film, I assumed Tom had a plan which would make this fairly easy. Also, they may have been going to a place where nobody recognised Peter, so Tom might have been able to pass himself off as Peter or just carry on without him and pretend that they parted ways.

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I think Tom shoves Peter overboard in the dead of night, debarked and gets lost in Europe. Easy to do in those days.

The sequel by the author is Ripleys Game where he in a common serial killer killing anyone who gets in his way. You have to suspend plausibility to some extent. This is about character development.

This is one of my all time favorite movies and I currently watching it again.

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Yes, this is true. Luck will not aid him in this case as it has in the past. He was trapped, and because of his fatal isolation and distrust, he failed to take the one real exit that was open to him - trusting Peter, even to the limited extent of telling him that he had pretended to be Dickie when he met Meredith. Peter and Tom were bound together by their secret homosexual outsider status, Peter was in love with Tom, and it wasn't that preposterous. Tom could have invented any number of reasons for the ruse and Peter would have bought it.

As someone here said, Tom was clever but he wasn't that bright. I take that to mean he was quick-witted, but a poor strategist.

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The point that I took from it was that with each murder he was taking one more step towards trapping himself, that eventually it wouldn't be possible for him to weasel his way out. Not that Peter's murder was the straw that would break the camel's back, but that he was getting close to that point. Anyway, I completely agree with you... I just didn't see it as a story flaw, something that the author hadn't taken into account.

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But I think this is basically why this is the final scene of the movie? Because Ripley has travelled so far down into the basement if you will that there's now no possible way out, for him to live a normal happy life. He'll either be caught and convicted or run away and spend the rest of his days living in secret. It doesn't really matter either way, this is the end for him.

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For what it's worth, Ripley does not kill Peter in the novel; he escapes capture and sails alone to Greece. In the next novel, it's almost 10 years later and he's living in France.

The murder of Peter at the end is one of the most horrifying things I've ever experienced in a movie -- and almost all of it happened off-screen. Who knows how or even if Ripley was able to maneuver his way out of that one

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Having seen this film a number of times, when I watched it recently, I imagined Ripley confessing his crimes to Peter, instead of killing him -- sobbing in anguish before him and asking for forgiveness. I believe Peter would have forgiven him, too, if Ripley convinced him he never meant to kill Dickie. Whether Peter would have carried on with their life together I can't guess, however

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I would have much preferred your ending. It's how I imagined it too.

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Yes, I agree. It was one of the saddest and most awful things I have ever seen on film. I fell in love with Peter myself, even though I am a woman. He was so lovely.

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Yes it was heartbreaking. He had to kill Peter because he had denied being seen with him by and to Meredith. I doubt Peter could have simply stayed in the cabin for the rest of the trip as Tom had asked and had Meredith seen them either together or seen Peter alone she would have known they were travelling companions and she would wonder why Tom had denied being with him on the deck that time.

In truth I felt for Tom every time that emotional drain Meredith appeared. She was ubiquitous and always turning up around every corner. It was painful to see how long it took Tom to turn around on that boat when she called out his name. I was rooting for her to be anywhere else but on that deck! What an annoyance she was! He had to think on his feet!

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I think it was more than wondering why Tom denied being with Peter but if Meredith e re spoke to Peter shed ask about Dickie and then the jig would be up. I think he would have rather killed Meredith but then found out she was with a whole bunch of people.

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Oh he definitely had murder in mind until he saw she was with relatives. That is why he asked her if she was alone.

"These days you have to boil someone before you can sleep with them"

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That scene is why I love the movie. It stays with you, the hopelessness and sadness of it. Hearing him sob as the man he loves realizes that he is being murdered.

The movie sounds like it goes in a different direction in the book. It is made to feel like this is where Tom ends up, destroying his last chance at happiness because he can't get away from his lies or let go of his obsession with being "a somebody".

Beautifully horrifying.

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I'd like to know how it was that Ripley, who seems to think of everything and always has a backup plan, managed to get on the boat unaware that Meredith and her folks were also sailing.

'Knowledge is cheap at any price'

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Thanks for explaining that part. I could not imagine how he got off the boat with Metedith and her family on board. Do you recommend the book? Thanks

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I'm relieved to read that in the novel, Peter lived. It was a mortifying, moving, and gut-wrenching ending in the film.

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I like the ending, but I have to confess it's a little far-fetched. The unintended consequences, as you state, are more trouble than they're worth. Why not just confess to Meredith that he lied about being Dickie? Sure, it will be momentarily embarrassing, but it's a lot cleaner than killing again and having rumors of a "Dickie" sighting make their way back to Mr. Greenleaf and Marge.

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I'm sure Tom ran every ultimate scenario through his head. He loved Peter, if there was any other way to save himself he wouldn't have killed Peter. In the end though self preservation comes first. His safest bet was to kill Peter and disappear forever. Eventually Marge would find out Peter went missing and she knew Tom was with Peter, then Mr Greenleaf and his detective would get involved. If Tom plays his cards right and keeps a low profile he will probably never get caught. That's a safe bet

Lets say he does tell Meredith he lied about being Dickie. Like you said it would be momentarily embarrassing, but how well would she take that news? Also she bound to run into Peter on the boat eventually which mean Tom has to tell Peter he lied to. Maybe Tom could convince Peter to be quiet, but Meredith no doubt would start spreading the word. Basically Tom would have to tell Mr. Greenleaf he lied about being Dicky twice to impress a girl and hopefully really charm the man's pants off. In the end there is no proof he killed anybody, but now he looks suspicious. I'm sure Mr. Greenleaf would now start having doubts about Tom especially with Marge's influence. All he would have to do is have his detective conduct another investigation with this newfound knowledge that Tom had been posing as Dicky. The detective is a smart guy and will trace Tom's steps back to Rome. HE would find and question the original detective who investigated Dickie killing Freddy Miles and he would just have to show him a picture of Dicky and say "is this the guy you remember" ???

He would be like "No I have never never seen this man before in my life" then all the detective would have to do is bring Tom to meet the Italian detective who knew Tom as Dicky, then that would be it for Tom

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