Now Thade and Koba can be comparable
Both are the most evil apes in cinema!
shareI just got back from 'Dawn of the Apes' and Koba definitely reminded me of Thade.
'Dawn' did not disappoint me and it's worthy of all the critical praise it's getting. About halfway through the film though, I was like damn, this thing is intense! I mean there is NO comic relief.
That's the kind of movie modern audiences eat up today - dark, complex and realistic. Well, as realistic as a movie about talking apes can be. It takes itself very seriously. But it's a great movie.
I guess I'm in the minority but sometimes a little humor and movies that don't take themselves super serious can be fun too and aren't necessarily beneath the audience. I still like the 2001 film for partly these reasons.
I guess I'm in the minority but sometimes a little humor and movies that don't take themselves super serious can be fun too and aren't necessarily beneath the audience. I still like the 2001 film for partly these reasons.
Humour plays its part in all the older films of PotA and the TV series. I actually think it's an important part of the series, so it's a pity that it's missing in the latest films. Humour can, if used well, add to rather than detract from the dark moments and important issues that the films bring up.
I've yet to see Dawn, but I'll correct that soon. share
I not seen Dawn yet (no spoilers please)
But where the story currently is I don't think requires ay humor, maybe later on in the series when the Ape civilization gets to the stage it was during the original, but until then it's a war zone.
The old PotA films contained moments of war, oppression and suffering, yet even then there were moments of humour. You can have both, and sometimes they can compliment each other well. PotA's humour tended towards the ironic, which was fitting for the nature of the story.
However, saying all that, the humour can be missed from the latest films and they can still be good in themselves, but I always felt that the humour was something that added to the films rather than subtracted (particularly the original films).
But the humour in the original came from seeing the Apes act like humans, taking photographs and doing stuff like that. But Conquest and Battle didn't have too much humour in them.
shareWhich might partly explain why I put PotA (original) and Escape above all the others. The humour in them is ironic and satirical, fitting in with the theme of the stories. Also, the Pierre Boulle novel that spawned all these films contained such humour. To me, the satire adds to the stories and are done in such a way that they don't detract from the serious message.
shareYes but they haven't got to that part in the new series yet. I don't think it would be right to have much humour in what appears to be a 'war' movie.
Escape was my least favourite of all the apes films.
My point is simple: I believe that a lot of the humour in PotA adds to the story in the series of films. As to whether the current series of films needs humour to be good, then it can do without to be good. But I feel that if the humour was done right (that being the important thing), then it could (indefinite word used) add to the series. The fact that, to you, it might appear to be a "war" film doesn't negate the possibility to have humorous moments, particularly those of satire and irony (with previous PotA films and the novel used). Many dark films involving war add humour into them to add to the point being made. You know, humour in films doesn't have to be all "ha ha!" belly laughs and simple light-heartedness, it can also make you think and ponder, particularly in matters of war and oppression.
Anyway, moving on.