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Val seemed to dumb down the character, you think?


I thought this was a GREAT movie and highly underrated. My biggest complaint though. . . how dumb Val Kilmer acts as the blind guy. Example: At the surprise party, Amy's friend comes in and fakes a seizure out of surprise and Virgil says, "Is that guy ok?" And everybody snickers, "ha ha ha ha, oh the innocence of a retard!" I think this movie was good but it portrayed blind people to be a bit undereducated. Like they need seeing people to explain how everything works. I dunno, agree or disagree?

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i thought the same thing when i first saw this movie, but if you think about it, it was actually accurate. i mean, he had never SEEN anyone react to a surprise. but he DID know that seizing on the ground in bad, so what else was he to assume other than there was something wrong with the guy? i think it was pretty well depicted. especially how everyone didn't understand that just because he technically see meant that he could understand everything he saw.

i think it was more the sighted people viewing the blind man as stupid, rather than the movie itself depicting blind people as stupid.

ps-- I LOVE THIS MOVIE!! :D

Chef13

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" i mean, he had never SEEN anyone react to a surprise. but he DID know that seizing on the ground in bad, so what else was he to assume other than there was something wrong with the guy?"

i disasgree. i thought that part of the movie was a dumb effort to pile some sympathy on him because he didnt understand this new phenomenon of sarcasm. well in an earlier scene, when they try to make him appear smart, he says he can get any book he wants in braille. so this guy has never read anything where someone fakes a reaction? i find that hard to believe.

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well, I am a little more interested in Abe Phroman. Did you get the name from Ferris Bueller, or did they get it from you?

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Save Ferris!!!!! (Yes, I got it from Ferris Bueller)

Something D-O-O economics. Voodoo economics.

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I can see what you're saying and where you're coming from. What I can tell is my own experience. I was legally blind as a child, also from congenital cataract, and my sight improved once I hit the age of 13. Even though I live only half the number of years that Virgil lived in darkness, it took me about a year and a half to get used to living as a sighted person. And even now I still have problems with certain colours, certain alphabets and numbers, going down steps, going down slopes, judging distance, distinguishing shadows from holes or other obstacles and so on. And yes, in the first three months during which I could see, I couldn't tell objects from its reflections or pictures. I have never mistaken a person acting like having a seizure as actually having one (but only because I never encountered such a scene then), but I have broken through a glass sliding door.

Needless to say, I hate unadorned glass sliding doors. Heh.

That being said, I didn't enjoy the movie. I am madly in awe of Val Kilmer and watches whatever he's in no matter what people say, I bought this DVD and paid the obscene shipping charge from Amazon, and the subject matter interests me greatly because I can relate to it. However, I find the execution greatly wanting. The cinematography, the sound editing, the choice of soundtrack, the pacing of the plot, how the characters were played (yes, I found Virgil hard to watch *sobs* - Val, I still love you!), the way the scenes were framed... I just, I wanted so much to like this movie. Perhaps I'll watch it again. Maybe it gets better in second viewing.

Also, Ferris RAWKS!

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The party scened didn't bother me, as he was learning to see.

I had more of a problem with the character in general - even before the operation. He acted like a 7 year old kid - there is a difference between being blind and being mentally underdeveloped.

Obviously he could hold down a job, and initially seemed to understand the delicate emotional nuances of appropriate behaviour that come along with being a masseuse. Yet at the bus stop he acts like a kid.

Maybe the result of living a sheltered life in a small town, but I don't buy it.

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Not at all. He played this role just right.

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