Beautiful, Complex Movie


I just watched this on Logo (gay-friendly network?) and found it a beautifully told story about a horrible time. The vile things done in the name of a "cause" are repeated over and over throughout history, but I think the snapshot of these brave women must represent one of the all-time lows of human behavior. As I watched the late scene in which Felice was taken away, I wondered once more what threat a person like her could possibly be in any reasonable world...and yet this extreme of bigotry still goes on. It sickens me to see the fighting in my own state in the U.S. where politicians are taking rights away from gays, not so different from the oppression depicted in this film. As for the husband, I could understand he would be angry to come home from some of the worst conditions and find his wife with anyone else, but there definitely was a double standard in their life when either person transgressed with a person of the opposite sex.

Because I had to work on something while the movie ran, I missed a few of the subtitles, and my German is not so good for listening. Did the newspaper man have a truly kind (and maybe a little lustful) attitude toward Mrs. Schrader, or was he hoping to trick her at some point? There seemed to be a cat-and-mouse thing going on between them. What, exactly, was she doing at the party (?) when word came that Hitler was dead?

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i think he had a kind (and you're right, probably lustful) attitude towards her, because she was a bright point in his life in a really dark time. i'm not sure what the deal with the party was... maybe he just wanted to do something nice for her? when she walks in he says that he's always invited her but she never came until siemens and deutsche bank were the guests, or something to that effect.

i recommend renting the movie because they cut a lot out in the logo version.

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I guess that Felice's boss secretly wanted to get her in the sheets. Because when he asked her why she's reading the news (non-propaganda)and she said because she's interested in hearing what's going on. And he asked again, why she's interested in reading this, she said: "Because I want it to be over" clearly not something a german woman, was supposed to say at the time, because of the "Endsieg" mentality. He only replied: "What would I do without you, Mrs. Schrader?"

He obviously was having sympathy for her... As to going to the party, I don't really know what that was about, maybe trying to not look that suspicious, since she declined the first five times, her boss wanted her to go.

You also got an insight on what Felice told her boss, in order to get the job. He said: "She said her husband died in action, she's a secretary and do evertything but think"

And he also refers to her as "the sunshine" of his office...

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He definitely wanted her but remained a gentleman. Do you think he knew or suspected that she was Jewish???

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As for the husband, I could understand he would be angry to come home from some of the worst conditions and find his wife with anyone else, but there definitely was a double standard in their life when either person transgressed with a person of the opposite sex.


and as u also seen, he had no respect for her when he could come home after all that time & start flirting & messing around with all the other women who were in the house at this time, even before he found out his wife was cheating & not to mention he's a woman beater & has such a high authority that he's the man & can do what he want in their relationship but that she has to be a certain way

and i am not saying this as a woman, but as a man & don't agree with it, sure she should have just left him before cheating since she didn't love him, but in these times, who knows how hard it was to try & go about this process or what it entailed

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