Most Norwegians today know that this series is a Danish creation but we
don't care! I Like the Norwegian versions best! Is this so hard to
understand? I have seen the Norwegian versions since my childhood and
for me Egon Olsen IS Arve Opsahl! I am so tired of danish people
complaining about the Norwegian versions. Remember to keep in mind that
it was the Danish producers/copyright holders of the original Danish
series who wanted to make a Norwegian version.
True, very true. But if the danish version is just as good, I'd really like to see it, because some of the norwegian Olsenbanden-films is truely outstanding! But I do understand how danes probably feel that norwegians "takes the credit" for the idea. But then again, I like the norwegian versions elements as much as the whole idea. The spesific actors, scenery, locations and norwegian culture wouldn't appear in a danish version.
But I'll have to see the danish version before commenting further...
Im half norweagan half danish. Ive lived in oslo norway my whole life but i got lots of family in denmark who i have visited at least once a year troughout my life.
Ive seen the norweagan olsenbanden movies and ive seen the danish and my conclution is this.
The norweagan movies is way better, i cant really understand how people dont see that.
The danish actors seems so damn wrong to me, they do not look like criminals, more like fags on their way to a costume party and this applyes moestly to the caracther of Kjell. In the danish movies he just seems like a wimpy, weird missplaced gay guy.
Not the comedic wimp that you see in the norweagan movies.
I wanted to post almost exactly the same comment here!
Okay, so the danes - and some others - apparantly find the danish version simply better than the norwegian. And, okay, some are a little angry because some norwegians claim that we invented Olsenbanden, which we didn't.
However, what I'd like my danish friends who like DK's Olsenbanden to realize, is that many norwegians have grown up with the NO-Olsenbanden, and it inspires just as "homely" and cozy feelings for us! And we have no relationship with the danish movies that can compare to that! THATS why some norwegians (maybe a little dim:) think Olsenbanden is norwegian! Is it so hard to get?
I've seen clips of the danish movies and I found THEM to be kind of lousy, and seemed sort of "fake" to me, especially the "banden" themselves, who look like some sort of cartoon characters. Somehow, the norwegian Olsens seem more real to me. Of Course this is probably national bias, and what I'm used to, but that's exactly what the danish, chauvinistic comments about "we made it first," also is! I don't care that you made it first, I care what I find best. I respect the danes liking their version best. But I don't respect their inability to understand/respect norwegians who prefer the way the movies were made in Norway.......
Well, about all movie ideas are taken from previously uttered ideas/movies... You name it. You take an idea and make it better.. Just like Norwegians can thank two danes and Teamfilm for the outstanding Olsenbanden movies which is still beeing produced, The rest of the world can thank the Norwegian military for making skiing a sport and so on (point beeing who created it first dosn't mather at all, all that mathers is that people like it, giving generations enjoyment).
The orginal creators should be happy that someone liked their idea was so much liked that people wanted to do remakes and build on their idea.
And, not to insult any Danes, but i gotta agree... The Norwegian movies seem a lot better.
I'll have to see the Norwegian... but I think you're right. Lots of Danish culture flows in the veins of the Danish films and my guess is that same goes for the Norwegian films. Ehm... and generally the plot of the Danish movies are rather simple in a sense, but when you think of it, they do NOT pretend to portray anything real (and let's face it, reality is usually complicated), but to portray three fictional and somewhat comical characters, nor do the films pretend to be good. They pretend to be mainstream comedies for the Danish public... (and probably some for the East German public later on.. since apparantly it was a hit in DDR) and that they are. If anyone ever thought Olsen banden was not cartoonish or meant to be completely unrealistic, well, then I have a hunch that you might have misunderstood it, perhaps because you do not know the Danish culture well enough.
As nationalist as this might sound, I think it might be best to keep the two versions seperated. Anyway I'll return with my opinion when I've seen the Norwegian ;)
How can you say that the danish version is bad? thats like asying the original "oceans 11" was bad. Your problem is proberly the same as mine. I can't relate to a bunch of stupid norwegians running arround trying to be Olsen Banden.
Egon is a SMALL guy, who would lose a fight to a mouse. But he's smarter than Brain(pinky and the... Red.)
Benny is the funny, happy, dancing fellow, who if needed can use a fist. But he's ultimate dream is to live in a horehouse, getting drunk.
Keld is the wimpy, goody to shoes, who wouldn't dare to confront he's wife.
Yvonne is the controling, not to smart wife, who would love to be a millioner, but won't let keld do anything illigal.
My guess is that the fake olsen banden is build up like this. cause otherwise you got a wrong consept. The danish actors do their job PERFECT. calling them "faggish, Cartoonish" and so on, is completey retardet.
I can understand if you like your movies better. That is logic. But DON'T talk *beep* about some of the greatest actors whe ever had i denmark.
Ove sprogø IS Egon Olsen!
It's hard to see exactly whom you're trying to attack.
Now, I see your English is not too strong, so maybe you can be forgiven for not understanding everything that is said on this forum, but Stelpower was in fact defending your precious films. Stelpower was just being realistic about what they are: relaxed and cartoonish films that do not pretend to be anything but simple entertainment for the masses.
Stelpower did not use the word fag or faggish.
Calling these films cartoonish is not retarded - it is describing their style realistically. You seem to think the term "cartoonish" means "bad". It doesn't. Cartoonish is about exagerating plot elements and visual effects like body movements, car speeds and the lot for clarity and comical effect. It is also about lack of realism, just like in cartoons.
I didn't attack anyone specific. And my writin english might not be perfect, but i can tell ya, i understand it better than you, my friend. My biggest problem is that i smoke to much weed, and i forget things. so i have probably mixed up the "angry" entries with the guy above me.
I'm seeing the norwegian verison now, and they do a good job. But Egon is WAY to big, and benny is nothing like to loveable fool you see in the danish version.
True the danish verison is cartoonish. and after looking trough the posts, this was what pissed me of i guess;)
"The danish actors seems so damn wrong to me, they do not look like criminals, more like fags on their way to a costume party and this applyes moestly to the caracther of Kjell. In the danish movies he just seems like a wimpy, weird missplaced gay guy."
But i don't got time to respond to it, and for the sake of it, who the *beep* cares;)
Cheers, and merry jul to all you godtfolk out der!
There's no question that the Danish films are better, the Norwegian films seem rushed and the casting is generally a complete mess. Take Valborg, here the voice of old granny reason, completely different from the original brash wannabe-royal Yvonne. In the Norwegian films it's actually Benny coming off as the big wimp and not Kjeld, who instead has a 'scary' dirty old man peeping tom aura about him, and I agree the Norwegian Egon is also miscast. The orginal Egon's a small guy and easily irrate, the remake's Egon is tall and rather unconvincing as a criminal mastermind, giving more of a bank director feel. I will say though, the performances are okay but they don't nail the characters 100% as intended. I can understand that people prefer their own cultures and languages, it's only natural, but it shows little artistic sense to say these films (largely Danish-invented/written scripts) are somehow superior to the originals. Think we have one of those sibling inferior feelings.
sharePeople have a tendency to like best the first versions of a song and movies they see. In that way we are very conservative.
It`s far easier to start a war than to end one.
Hej Gutter,
It's curious how your topic receives 3 pro-norge responses in two years and 2 months, all siding that Danish people "don't understand" how you feel about the Norwegian Olsen Banden. Who stated this aside from yourselves?
Is it so hard to understand?- No.
It's stuff like "... it's a fact that the Norwegian Olsenbanden movies has and is a lot more popular than the danish version." and "The norweagan movies is way better, i cant really understand how people dont see that.
The danish actors seems so damn wrong to me, they do not look like criminals, more like fags on their way to a costume party and this applyes moestly to the caracther of Kjell. In the danish movies he just seems like a wimpy, weird missplaced gay guy." that get me to react.
First quote. if it's a fact that the Norwegian Olsen Banden is so much better, then how come it was the Danish versions that shipped off to Germany, Poland and other east-European countries, and not the Norwegian one? Oh, it's because they wanted the danish ones. And as far as I know, there are more than enough people just in Poland to cover all of Scandinavia, so the Norwegian one being more popular than the danish one? I must laugh.
Second quote. you can't enforce opinion upon others. Where popularity is a fact that can be measured, opinion might be likewise measurable, it'll never become fact, thank god, so no, no one will ever be able to "see that". There's no recipe for how a criminal should look. Kjeld is not even a real criminal, which you'd know had you watched some of the Danish movies, and Benny is only a sort of small-time hustler, nothing serious, while Egon is the only criminal, and only the mastermind criminal, not a thug. Also, you are judging on their appearance that they look gay, just because they dress a little old fashioned for their time? Ever noticed their age? Of course they're supposed to look stupid; most old people do (no offense). I bet you those kind of clothes were pretty fly in their youth! - Also you have to understand that a lot of kids from his generation were raised only by women, creating some wimpy, needy, weak men, who wound up with strong women to take care of them, who then had complete control over them. It's like how women who had an alcoholic father who hit them often ends up with the same kind of husband/boyfriend, treating them the same kind of way. It's because it's familiar. It's sadly, comfortable. It's quite normal to be looking for a partner who resembles your mom or dad in some way or form, as it gives comfort (Not in a sexual nature, that'd be weird).
I can really only suggest reading http://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olsen_Banden if you can be bothered with a few pages of danish, as it sort of explains -why- the danish films became so popular, which might make it more clear to you why Danes are so busy defending it's honour.
At the very least, maybe check out series such as "Huset på Christianshavn" or "Matador" before you judge the actors too harshly.