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What about the actual bumblebee theory? neone believe, mind over matter?


I do!!! funny how the concept isnt even searchable online...the power or mind over matter is soo powerful

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I read in a science magazine that there was a logical explanation as to why it can fly. I can't quite remember what the answer was, but it had something to do with the way it flaps its wings. It's not up and down like on a bird, but backwards and forwards in some way... But I'm not sure. Either way, they were pretty vague on it, and I think that scientists still don't really know :D

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You're spot on apart from the last bit - bumble bee flight is now fairly well understood. Not simple, though.

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just wait a couple of years. when people see this movie they'll start laughing and say "didn't they even know how a bee flew, my God, they were stupid back then." Just like we do when we see a movie with a sciencepart that we now know doesn't hold water.

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For anyone that reads this later... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bumblebee:


"It is believed that the calculations which purported to show that bumblebees cannot fly are based upon a simplified linear treatment of oscillating aerofoils. The method assumes small amplitude oscillations without flow separation. This ignores the effect of dynamic stall, an airflow separation inducing a large vortex above the wing, which briefly produces several times the lift of the aerofoil in regular flight. More sophisticated aerodynamic analysis shows that the bumblebee can fly because its wings encounter dynamic stall in every oscillation cycle.

Additionally, John Maynard Smith a noted naturalist with a strong background in aeronautics, has pointed out that bumblebees would not be expected to sustain flight, as they would need to generate too much power given their tiny wing area. However, in aerodynamics experiments with other insects he found that viscosity at the scale of small insects meant that even their small wings can move a very large volume of air relative to the size, and this reduces the power required to sustain flight by an order of magnitude.

Another description of a bee's wing function is that the wings work similarly to helicopter blades, "reverse-pitch semirotary helicopter blades".
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Peace

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Agreed. Your eyes tell you the bumblebee is flying, but your calculations say it is impossible. The answer? Your calculations left out a variable.......or two.
So it becomes a metaphor for mind over matter.

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I like this movie, but there is no science here.

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