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You just put me out of business and closed my late mothers store


... let's fall in love! wtf?

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well done : )

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It's not like Tom Hanks's character specifically set out to destroy her business. Like they say in the film, it's not personal. That's what bigger business do. They run smaller business out. I can see how it'd cause a bit of resentment (which is doe), but it's not really grounds to hate somebody forever. :P

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"Big businesses do put little businesses out of business, and it's nothing personal, but that's a different subject for a different sort of movie."

But that was the topic of this post. Why did she fall in love with the guy that put her out of business. Thats a totally different topic than why is this story different than The Shop Around the Corner on which it appears to be loosely based.

And in response to the OP, I guess she recognizes someone she'd like to be with and is willing to overlook this tiny thing of putting her out of business.

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But actually, there's a scene with the father and grandfather where they're talking about crushing such and such "mom and pop" shop in another city, and while talking about Shop Around the Corner, they specifically mention putting it out of business. It's not as though it's an unfortunate side effect of their business. They revel in the fact that their big box store is destroying local businesses.

Not to spark some debate because I do believe that small businesses SHOULD close if they can't keep up with the cheaper stores in the area. That's the nature of a free market. However, often the big box stores (like Walmart) are only able to sell their items so cheaply by using sweatshops to manufacture their products and by paying their employees pitifully and offering them little to no benefits. They also put massive pressure on their suppliers. And while these things are good for them as a business, they're morally bankrupt.

Call me Katie. ;-)

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apparently the shop around the corner had a 'jeffersonian purity'. thus it was probably running on slave labor. if joe fox didn't put her out of biz i'm sure the new york state department of labor would close her down.




Season's Greetings

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Running on slave labor my foot.

I really don't believe the bookstore closing in ANYWAY was meant to be a positive thing, Nicodemus. In fact, I was always hoping he'd help her reopen it as a branch of the Fox store.

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I agree about Kathleen being able to start over after the shop closes. I used to remember the store so fondly (first seen this movie as a kid) and thought the moment she told Joe, in the park, that it being shut down was actually a good thing for her...well, I thought it was just the writers' attempt to make the superstores more likeable, and rush to a happy ending.
But now I've seen it again, recently, I noticed there are indeed many clues throughout the film according to which Kathleen is not completely satisfied with her life. She wants to be remembered for the things she does, thinks that by ruling the store in her mother's fashion, she makes it too easy on herself. The thing is: she would like to change but is afraid to do it.

" You ain't running this place, Bert, WILLIAMS is!" Sgt Harris

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Nailed it!



He's taking the knife out of the Cheese!
Do you think he wants some cheese?


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You think she meant to fall in love with him? In fact she fell in love with his online persona first. Joe realized that in order for it to EVER work out, he would have to show her that he is more than just Fox Books.

By the time he does this, her store has been closed a while and she came to terms with it, understanding that she can do something new with her life, something she chooses to do.

Ultimately, him closing down her store would end up being just an interesting cosmic nudge. In When Harry Met Sally, he was dating her roommate and they HATED each other. But given time they realized how perfect they were together

There’s no one on IMDB I care enough for to use spell check- suck it grammar Nazis

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Not many Americans read books.

To make a movie around them fundamentally is elitist bs.

All the characters were snobs.

Instead they should have had Steve Zahns character threaten to blow up the big chain bookstore.

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How about I just lost my business and this rich multi millionaire likes me

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he looks like he'd try something like that!


Season's Greetings!

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The whole point of the movie is that they were already in love before she knew it was him who put her out of business.

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Exactly.

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