evolution


I liked "Prey," and wish it wasn't cancelled, but their idea of evolution is wrong. When a new species or subspeicies develops, they don't automatically have the goal of killing similar species/subspiecies that they developed from. They are mainly interested in their own genes surviving, and this does not require similar species to die. Like the survival of dogs' genes doesn't require wolves to be wiped out. Most species that became extinct did because they were not able to obtain enough food or were killed for food. Going out of your way to kill others that you don't intend to eat is actually worse for your survival, since it puts you in more dangerous situations where others are fighting you for their lives. Also, if the new species is actually better able to survive in the environment than humans, as long as they are able to reproduce with humans, they more realistically would take over for humans gradually by their genes surviving longer than they would purposely destroy humans. Even though they are genetically advantaged, I think the new species is overall at a disadvantage if actual wars take place because they have such low numbers. Also humans are not a true prey because they are not eaten.

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I looked at it as one of two things going.
1. There culture of paranoid propaganda was the driving force behind the war.
2. They did not evolve, rather some inteligence, I am thinking alien because of the comet mystery, programed the need to wipe out humanity into them.

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Humans are the top 'dog' in the food chain. A 'super human' has all sorts of conntations, but they would apparently (based on the move's story) be a threat to regular humans. The regular humans are prey and yes they are not eaten, but they are killed and the new race is trying to keep secret and will do whatever it takes - until they can establish themselves in sufficient numbers.

In theory the humans and super humans could co-exist, but what happens when the humans find out they are no longer their own masters?

The new species also is aware of this potential issue and they feel more threatened, so they take to the offensive.

A wolf and a dog may or may not get along, but they will still establish who the alpha male is.

I would also wager a new species of 'man' would not come about this way. A new species implies procreation is not possible with the other (no mixing) but I do think society in general is more favorble to 'smart people' in this day and age (book smarts, then practical smarts then luck :)).

If the show had more time, it might have gone into plausible explinations of how the new species started...

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Dragon X, I agree with the previous posters who say that a new species may not necessarily start to destroy the less evolved humans. But then again, that may not have made for as interesting a dramatic premise. If the show had gone on longer, it may have featured splinter, heretical groups that did not agree with the others' tactics, some who were congenital vegetarians, or, gasp!, vegans. All of these scenarios, and many more, could have been explored, specially from less paranoid vantage points, if only the show had been given a better time slot, or better pr. As it is, the X-men, the classic comics, and not the films, are the best example of what this may actually entail; and in that one, Magneto's is the more likely, and compelling viewpoint, but only because the premises of mutant manifestation are accompanied by existential trauma more akin to adolescent angst than to species emergence, which is to be expected, as teenagers were the initial target audience. Still, it was interesting to see its narrative evolution from the time when Cyclops' coolness was as compelling as the more exotic, brutal, zen-co-opted, and ultimately conventional appeal of Wolverine, a more adolescent personage than Slim Summers could ever hope to be. As to whether an advanced human subspecies would not be detected at present is highly debatable: recently, reports were enthusiastically made about a baby in Europe, with significantly more muscle mass than average humans, calling it a new step in evolution, if my memory serves me right. I wonder, how the baby would feel if this implies that he's a throwback to Andre the Giant, rather than a connection to the emergence of homo superior? And in the Discovery Channel even more recently, a fully operant autistic man with dreadfully magnificent memory, synaesthetic attributes, and appalling powers of cogitation was featured. He learned to speak fluent Icelandic in seven days. Is this a new step in human evolution? He seemed like a very friendly, well-adjusted chap. But then again, television is a medium that warps one's impressions into seductive semblances of reality, only to later disabuse one of that willful innocence. See you in the funny papers.

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the point to this debate is that prey was a tv show, evolution aside, the point is to get ratings. and in order to get ratings you need drama. i doubt anyone would have watched if there was no bloodshed. i certainly wouldn't watch if the superhumans came out of the closet and announced themselves and wanted to live in with us primitives.

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OK, firstly: calling all American Prey-viewers! I'm picking up on a disturbing fact here. "...may have featured splinter, heretical groups", "half a season"??Didn't you get to see the entire first season? Because in the finale we are introduced to said "splinter heretical group"!

I LOVED this show, but let's face it, their basic science skills sucked. If the Dominants were in fact a new species, interbreeding would have been impossible. And a new species evolving over such a short time as 40,000 years is... kinda impossible too. Especially since they connect it all to global warming. BTW, the dog-wolf analogy has a major flaw: dogs and wolves do not occupy the same ecological niche. When they do come in contact, as we se in cases with farmers living near wild wolf-packs, mayhem ensues.

But despite all this I think this was a wonderful tv-show. I still have my tapes, more snowy and scratchy by the day, and I watch the whole show at least a couple of times a year. Please someone out there, give me DVD!

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Putting it simply from what i remember of this series they didn't start out with the idea of wiping out humanity that evolved after their instincts to procreate took effect. The episode where they had the female and ed figured out how many of the new species could be out there shows they didn't start out wanting us dead. Also as was clear there were groups in both camps that wanted co-existence unfortunately the militant groups of each party took steps to prevent this. Evolution in 40000 years isn't impossible just improbable. If anyone remembers basic science and the experiment where the basic building blocks of life are added in their natural state and an energy source is added within a week you would witness basic evolution. ie simple chemicals becoming more complex chemicals.

I really hope in our culture of remakes (Battlestar Galactica, Bionic Woman) that someone will try and remake this series because while i do like x-men and the 4400 this series was in my opinion the best at portraying the next evolution of humankind without giving us unbelievable powers.

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You're right, evolution in 40 000 years is possible. What bugged me was that they said global warming (i.e. the greenhouse effect) was the cause. Our industrialised society has only been around for about 300 years. That's considerably less than 40 000.

But hey, it's just details. I loved the show, and I thought it was really well-made. At least in my humble, non-expert opinion.

"Who is the man behind the bat? Maybe he can help me find the woman behind the cat.."

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