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Why is the Mighty Mouse bit supposedly so funny?


Can someone explain to me what about the Mighty Mouse bit makes it so humorous? I just don't get it... And it's not that I don't get comedy... This just doesn't make sense to me.

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I'm with you on this.

Actually most of the film isn't very funny, but that Mighty Mouse bit is just another long line of very unfunny and sad attempts by Kaufman.

Having watched and enjoyed the episodes of Taxi with Andy Kaufman as Latka I was intrigued when Man on the Moon came out.

But the film, if one is to accept it as a kind of biography on Kaufman, basically revealed him to be a ginormous azz hole.

I didn't mind Kaufman's eccentric behavior or his bizzare comedy style. I think that was just the way he did his act. But the crap he would pull on his own family - pretending to be dying and whatnot, that was just too much. In the film his own family had gotten fed up with his antics and were leary of any new sob story Kaufman came up with. When told of his "death" or "illness" or whatever, you can see they were just so exhausted with him already.

This whole notion that tricking people can be funny only carries you so far. Sooner or later you're gonna piss people off. And you're gonna piss people off even more when your comedy routine is as lame as Kaufman's evidently was.

The more I watched the film the more I thought that Kaufman might have been suffering from some mental defect.

It seems that he had this idea of what he thought was "funny", and he was so totally convinced that it was "funny" that nobody (even his best friend DeVito) could get him to see just how unfunny he actually was. On practical application his comedy routines were mostly flacid. Original? I guess. Offbeat humor? Most definitely. But was it really funny..? I guess that depends on who you ask.

His ideas of staged antics during interviews could be very funny if executed well. But Kaufman didn't.

The idea of wrestling females by pretending (or not pretending) to be some chauvanist I can also see as being funny if executed well. And here again Kaufman didn't.

Someone also mentioned Kaufman's ability to command some influence with certain tv shows with incredulity. That I totally agree with. I don't see how it was even possible for someone like Kaufman to get away with some of the crap and cheap theatrics he did. But whatever...

The parts of the film I thought that were really moving was the close friendship between Danny DeVito and Kaufman. It comes through very clearly that these two were such good friends and colleagues. This film might have been a love letter to the late Kaufman by his friends. For that reason alone I would say the film does a nice job at providing some insight into Kaufman.

This film is for his friends. And that's it. Anybody else is basically outside looking in like someone on this message board already stated.

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The parts of the film I thought that were really moving was the close friendship between Danny DeVito and Kaufman.


Whether or not they were friends in real life, I don't know, but, Danny DeVito didn't play himself in the movie. He played Kaufman's manager. Even the scenes from Taxi didn't show DeVito, because DeVito wasn't playing himself in the movie.



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It's in the bizarreness of it. Sort of like his original bit we see, when he's doing to the terrible impressions and putting the audience off, then does a spot on Elvis out of nowhere. Same thing here - he literally just stands there while the song begins, doing nothing. Then, out of nowhere, lip syncs and really sells Might Mouse's part. It's really just making the audience feel ill at ease watching a performer bomb, and the laughter is more out of relief than actual comedy when he's able to do something actually noteworthy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItMJtA8vfpw

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Consider it was what- 1976? His routine was not mainstream at all. You hear a comedian is coming on and you expect a comedian to do a comedy routine, with jokes, juggling, an arrow through the head... whatever.

Andy comes out. He looks timid. He looks like he's suffering stage fright on national TV. The audience is uncomfortable because they empathize with Kauffman's illusion of discomfort and fear.

Then Kauffman puts on a record. And people hear the theme song to a cartoon. The audience feels they are being set up, but still lack any real insight into what is going on or what this guy is about. He stands there, dopey, and then out of nowhere, he exudes bravado, confidence, presence and commands everyone's attention as he merely lip syncs the chorus. it is so simplistic, and completely devoid of talent, yet the genius is (like any joke) in the set-up. And with that, Kauffman's routine succeeded and the audience recognizes that and laughs along with the joke.

While other comedians can rattle off 20 jokes in three minutes in order to showcase their talents, Kauffman took it to the other extreme and took his routine to the extreme minimum a comedian could take it.

And that was damned funny in an age when Richard Pryor, Robin Williams, Sam Kinison and George Carlin were pushing their routines and pushing boundaries further and further.



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But it was one of, if not the, lamest, dumbest and worst act in the history of the universe.
ANYONE and their dead friend or relative could have done that. And I mean anyone.

Maybe anyone could have done it (which I doubt, actually - not everyone can perform confidently). But could anyone have thought of it?

Andy wasn't the funniest guy in the world, but he was interesting, he was entertaining. At least to me. I always liked to watch him to see what weird thing he was going to come up with next. Like when he went on Letterman dressed in a yogi outfit, did some yoga moves and a sword swallowing bit, then sang Rose Marie. It was just bizarre. Letterman got a huge kick out of Andy, and appreciated how he always had something interesting prepared for the show.

Most of what I know of Andy I got from SNL and Letterman. I watched Taxi, but I never cared for Latka that much. Maybe I could sense that he was phoning it in. Or maybe I didn't like the way he was written. I much preferred Andy's own stuff. Although it wasn't all good, I never liked his wrestling women bit.

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It was funny when the real Andy Kaufman did it on SNL. Okay, sure, humor is subjective: but I laughed at it; people talked about it at school afterward; it was generally considered humorous.

The "not making sense" is pretty much the joke.

This was the period when what you might call "meta comedy," and completely illogical absurdity, was new and cutting edge. See: Monty Python (made earlier, but it didn't come to the US until PBS stations showed it in 1974), Steve Martin, etc.

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Jesus people. Stop overthinking things. It's funny because of it's simplicity. And honestly, Kaufman was never a comedian. If you expect everything he does to be funny, then you're missing the point. He was a performance artist. The great thing about the Mighty Mouse skit is the irony. Andy is making light of the fact that one man's job during this entire performance is to gleefully sing "Here I come to save the day!" It's hilarious because the performer overestimates his importance.

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It was funny because it was absurd, off-the-wall, and the opposite of entertaining.

Everything about Andy was a practical joke--his goal first and foremost was to mess with people's heads. He said himself he was not a comedian, he didn't even know what was funny.

That was the genius behind it--you didn't know what you were looking at. And his Mighty Mouse sketch was--like his impersonations--misleading. He comes across as timid, as nervous, and he waits for the only line on the record he knows. And suddenly, he's a showman with charisma. That's the joke.

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More irony:

You responded to my 9-word explanation ("The 'not making sense' is pretty much the joke") by:
- first complaining that I'm overthinking things, then
- writing a seven-sentence explanation.

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It's funny becaus his singing voice is so awesome!
You'd hardly expect that coming out of his slight frame.

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It's funny becaus his singing voice is so awesome!


Except he was not singing at all, he was lip-syncing.
So your explanation of why it was "funny" is rather inane.

I never found him funny myself...ever.
He was just really, really, really irritating.

He would mess around with the audience and viewers, etc.
Monty Python also did this. Not just on their TV show, but also live performances and on their records...releasing a record with both sides labelled "side A", or records that would play different material depending on where you dropped the needle, etc.
The big difference was, the Monty Python guys were funny and Andy was not.

Never understood how/why "anti-comedy" is supposed to be funny.
It's like saying Justin Bieber is good cos he is so bad.

I know Andy himself never "considered" himself a comedian...but he was no matter what he thought. He actively sought out new ways to make people laugh and "funny" way to perform...the VERY definition of what a comedian is.

However I did find the man to be very interesting.

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Andy has influenced so many comics after him to some degree or another. Andy kaufman did to comedy what Howard Stern did to radio. They broke the mold of what was expected. Without Andy, we may not have had Stephen Wright, Emo Phillps, Zach Galifinakis (sp:) etc.

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It's funny becaus his singing voice is so awesome!

Except he was not singing at all, he was lip-syncing.

I think this exchange goes a long way toward explaining the problem: you just don't get the joke.

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One thing that makes something like Andy Kaufman so funny is because he irritates people like you.

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You have to keep in mind that in the scene directly before that one, he asked "Is there a secret to being funny?" and received the reply "Yes, Silence."
He stood there and did nothing for a long time, he used his silence to comedic effect and did it brilliantly. He then put on a record without introducing it while continuing to say absolutely nothing. His silence is almost building suspense to the point that when he finally does something, it's automatically hilarious. It isn't the singing or lip-synching that is funny, it's the fact that he did absolutely nothing for over a minute beforehand.
After that he sticks with the silence, again creating a suspense but because we know it's building towards this time, his silence is even funnier. He has to however do something to keep that suspense up, the sip of water does that but even better is the little fake start he does.
You know when people say that comedy is all about timing? This is just about one of the best examples of that.

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It's called anti-humor. Why is being a 'bad guy' wrestler funny? But he'll always be remembered for these. And I guarantee in 30 years no kids will find jokes about Twitter or My Little Pony references funny.

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It's sort of like how when Andy would do a celebrity impression, but instead of mimicking the person's voice, he would just speak in his Foreign Man/Lakta Gravas voice and briefly recite something that the the celebrity may stereotypically say. What makes the routine funny is that it's intentionally supposed to be bad. But as Foreign Man, he's so sweet and naïve (like a big man-child), that you can't at all hate him for deliberately trolling the audience.

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Tommy Cooper was the most popular magician in the UK for many years.

Why? Because he always messed up his tricks. Check him out. He was around at the same time that Kaufman emerged.

The fumbling, the nervous laugher and the confusion.. until at the last moment he manages to pull off the trick.

It's in the performance and no, not anyone can pretend to be hopeless at something they are really good at. It takes a lot of work and talent.

Another example is the British comedian Les Dawson, mostly remembered as a fat bigoted middle aged stand up comic, but he had a routine where he played the piano really badly. It was far harder for him to rewrite the tunes with bum notes n and play them in time than to simply copy the original score. You knew he was going to screw it up, you just had to keep your ears on edge until it happened.

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